Mosin Nagant Recoil

Also, don't listen to anyone that says the recoil "ain't bad"

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The M-44 is about nine pounds of rifle, firing a cartridge that at most is on par with a .30'06. That's three or four MORE pounds than your average .30'06 rifle weighs. The physics don't lie--the actual recoil of an M-44 or 91/30 is LESS than most hunting rifles.

I suspect the problem is mostly the result of dealing with something new and different. Shooters who are used to rubber buttpads are scared of a steel one that was designed to break square heads. Shooters who are used to little or no flame are shocked by the fireball from the M-44. Shooters used to a Monte Carlo stocks aren't comfortable with the short length of pull and straight profile of the Mosin stock. They're also used to semipistol grips built into the wood.

My advice is to forget the recoil pad and the compensators and clear your mind. The more you expect big recoil, the more it will feel like big recoil.

But for the record, if you want big recoil load a powerhouse .45-70 in a Ruger No. 3.

Also, don't listen to anyone that says the recoil "ain't bad"

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The M-44 is about nine pounds of rifle, firing a cartridge that at most is on par with a .30'06. That's three or four MORE pounds than your average .30'06 rifle weighs. The physics don't lie--the actual recoil of an M-44 or 91/30 is LESS than most hunting rifles.

I suspect the problem is mostly the result of dealing with something new and different. Shooters who are used to rubber buttpads are scared of a steel one that was designed to break square heads. Shooters who are used to little or no flame are shocked by the fireball from the M-44. Shooters used to a Monte Carlo stocks aren't comfortable with the short length of pull and straight profile of the Mosin stock. They're also used to semipistol grips built into the wood.

My advice is to forget the recoil pad and the compensators and clear your mind. The more you expect big recoil, the more it will feel like big recoil.

But for the record, if you want big recoil load a powerhouse .45-70 in a Ruger No. 3.

big kick stick

the russkies did good with this one. I heard it was a speer with the ability to fire a 7.62 round, ""the m44"" is a simple rifle that dose everything it is supposed to do. I have owned 5 and I have to say weather you sport them or just go out of the box. they will just do the job. they are in my opinion "just another mill surplus rifle. nothing fancy. you have to have an itsh fror them, as I do.
I am in love with my m44 with no pig sticker, and 10 layers of clear.
now that is red?

cosmoline you are my new friend. why can they fire a 12 and then complain about a real kicker.. leave the steal but plate to sort out the ###### whel you know

if I had to put my life on it. my mosin is a good rifle at 100 meters, but my sam colt has to come out in a rush. simple point is you can never trust an arm unless you own it, clean it , shoot it every day, you must know how to work a tool or you are done.

Not as bad as a Remington 870 in 12 gauge.

Glenn has a point. I put about the same amount of ammo through my Mosin (Bulgy ball) as I did my Mossberg 500 (00 buck and slugs) in the same afternoon and I only bought a recoil pad for the Mossberg.

It took some getting used to after .22's and an SKS, but it wasn't painful so much as insistent.

I agree, the Mosins are no German or Swede Mausers, Springfield 03s or even model 17s but as with most all commie designed and built stuff they do what is expected of them .... no frills. They are crude to the western spoiled eye and the barrels look like little more than a piece of pipe, but they do put very nice crowns on 'em. Point being I think the recoil is just about right and with some handloaded ammo my 91/30 sniper is deadly accurate. Who'd a thunk it I have a Interarms 458 Win Mag on a Mauser action, weighs 7 lbs. Off the bench I've seen stars shooting 500 gr RN @ 2400 fps. Hell it litterally knocked a guy out off the bench who tried it. So Mosins are just about right

My m44 was the first rifle I got to deal with Cosmoline (the nasty stuff, not the great poster of THR ). After stripping the gun down to it's bear a$$ and getting all the goo I could tell was there, I had a good three hours getting it back together (thank the lord for online pictures of the process). Then I got to wait three months for the weather to get good enough to go shoot. So I get to the range and find out...

The stock takes some getting use to. The first time I shot it, the recoil snapped my right thumb joint smack into my nose, and that felt pretty good. I did it again the second time (obviously the first time was just a fluke, and had nothing to do with the way I was holding it). Then I started to do a cheek weld farther back then I was use to (I only shot .22lr before, and my close cheek weld wasn't a problem for some reason with a .22lr).

Well after my brain got use to the idea that pulling the trigger with the new cheek weld wouldn't result in the numbing of my nose, it wasn't too bad.

Then I started to fire some Mil surplus (first 20 rounds I fired where Winchester Retail), since I figured out (all by myself mind you) that spending $16 to fire a $87 rifle 20 times was kind of stupid. After 20 rounds I had to beat the bolt on a rock to get the SOB open. I think I got that problem fixed now (maybe).

Now what were we talking about? Oh, yeah, recoil. I would rather fire 100 rounds from my Mosin then from my 12 gauge. Both give my weak skin a bruise that lasts awhile (the bruise doesn't hurt, just looks nasty). I would say that you will feel that you are shooting something, but the hype is probably more then what it really is.

Now what do I think of my Mosin? I love the piece of [expletive], and after all we have been through together I wouldn't let go of it for anything...



less then $100.

I did the same thing today. Shot at .22 most of the day, then shot my 98k. Ouch! I have not shot a 12 gauge in about 7 years, but I remember the recoil being much stronger than the mosin or a mauser. Being very skinny, that steel buttplate really starts to irritate.

get a slip-on recoil pad. Then get a Blackhawk hawktek cheek pad. Then actually enjoy shooting it.

I shot 50 rds of Wolf and Czech light ball yesterday through my 91/30 and walked away with a sore shoulder. Mind you I was shooting from a bench and my shoulder took the full force of the recoil. It still kicks less than a 20 Ga shooting slugs though.

My m95 steyr still kicks worse than any mosin. I love shooting that carbine. But after about 10 rounds I'm done.

Thank you Cosmoline for telling the truth, again.