Which 9mm short handgun?

I'd go for the CZ, why are they so much cheaper than the other guns in your country? Thats not a huge amount more than what they sell for in the USA. I got a used example for $225usd in 2006 and I'm happy with it and it's accurate, well made and reliable.

We can't generally get the Glock 25 in the USA.

Personally, I'd go with the Glock, although, the price is about double what the corresponding 9mm Para model, the G19, would cost here.
I own it's .40S&W brother, the G23, and I'm quite satisfied with it.
The Glock is simple to field strip, maintain, and parts can be found all over the world.
If you have the money, I'd go for it.
If I could get one here in the US, I'd have one!!

Probably in theory the CZ is stronger due to it not having an open topped slide. And the CZ has a steel frame.

The Beretta 85FS (single stack version) is one of my favorite pistols. Its slim, light very reliable and accurate.

CZs are quality built weapons, and looks like a bargin, compared to the others

I own a Browning BDA380 ... which IS the Beretta Model 84 Cheetah made for Browning by Beretta. So if I was in the market for a .380 and given the three choices mentioned, I'd go for the Cheetah since I've been very happy with my BDA380.

The CZ 83 is a Double stack magazine 12 rounds
Width: 1.4 inches
Height: 5 inches
O.A.L.: 6.8 inches

What are those dimensions in the Berreta Cheetah/Browning BDA?

I'd take the CZ based mainly on the price. All 3 should be nice guns.

Something to be aware of.
Here is a Beretta 84/Browning BDA problem that crops up with extensive shooting.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=327996


Now:
You could get two CZ'z for the price of the Beretta?
Or two CZ's, and $138 left over for practice ammo for the price of the Glock?

Personally, it's a no-brainer!
Get one CZ, and use the other $490 - $628 for practice ammo, extra mags, a real nice holster, and still have a bunch of money left over!


rcmodel

I would go to gunbrokers and buy a Star Model S 380, can pick one up used and great shape for under 250 , look at the ammo you could buy, nice carry gun , 1911 style , slim , all steel,shoots great, bad part only 9 shot , love mine . Thanks TEDMI.

rcmodel said:

Something to be aware of.
Here is a Beretta 84/Browning BDA problem that crops up with extensive shooting.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=327996

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I've been field stripping my BDA380 for over a quarter of a century and never experienced that. Guess I got one of the good ones

That's simple enough for a materials snob like me, the CZ. There's no plastic or aluminum in it I think.

CZ, for the reason HisSoldier mentioned.

I am surprised you have not thought about a Kel-Tec P3AT?? It is worth its weight in gold (literally).

I am an absolutely dedicated Glock user. However, at the difference in price, I would go for the CZ. I have friends that have them, I have shot them, and they are fine pistols. I really do not like the Beretta's design. It is well made, accurate, and has lots of levers in all the wrong places.

I don't know if you're still following your thread but I'd go CZ over them all at those prices. The 83 IMO is superior to the BDA in strength and accuracy, and while I like Glock's a lot, I'm never gonna drop a grand on one. If it helps you out keep in mind that the 83 is the civilian version of the 82, a very successful and popular military sidearm..........................

I would leave that store and find one with a better selection. With today's modern pistols, why limit yourself to 9mm Kurz when for no additional penalty of weight or size you can have a real 9x19?

9mm para might be illegal where he is. (I know I've heard that it is in some foreign countries like Mexico and Italy, since it's a military cartridge). It seems like his selection is pretty limitied with those prices he's listing.

I would say the Glock 27.

am surprised you have not thought about a Kel-Tec P3AT?? It is worth its weight in gold

Likely it's because the OP is in South East Asia, and not the US and the Kel-tec isn't available where he is.

CZ 83

It gets my nod over the Beretta 84F mainly because the safety is disengaged downward.

Points:

1) CZ 83 in 9mm Short (9x17) comes with a 13 round magazine (12rd in 9x18, 15rd in 7.65 Browning AKA .32 acp)

2) The CZ 83 in 9x17 was a police issue weapon. In 7.65mm was the civilian version (originally)