Cavuto had a discussion of concealed carry on campus. Here is the link:
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/playe...ng Heat?&acc&Your World&-1&Business&199&&&new.
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/playe...ng Heat?&acc&Your World&-1&Business&199&&&new.
Fox News / Cavuto discussion of guns on campus
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The link does not work, but currently you can find the video at the bottom of the Fox News Home page. The video clip is short, but the GOA rep (Larry?) presents a good argument. Even though Cavuto seems to be leery of the concept, he at least lets the GOA guy speak. Just another sound bite basically. This is a serious issue in need of serious discussion. This was not it. On the other hand, it seems the average person has an attention span of 15s. Would a serious, comprehensive discussion aimed at the masses achieve anything?
Pa.Bill
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Earlier on CNN they had a mini debate ----two college students debating on the pro's and con's --- carry in school areas.
The pro guy did very well, I was impressed, but the person asking the questions seemed a bit negitive to the pro side.
I think we will be hearing much about this subject in the coming days.
The pro guy did very well, I was impressed, but the person asking the questions seemed a bit negitive to the pro side.
I think we will be hearing much about this subject in the coming days.
Bobby
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cedjunior
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O'Reilly had a much better discussion on this subject last week, there is a link to the video on his section of foxnews.com . He seemed overwhelmingly for campus carry if you can believe that.
bogie
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Yeah, but O'Reilly's preaching to the choir.
If you want to sway the decision-makers' opinions, you're going to have to approach them through venues like on-campus media. If there's a half-dozen letters to the editor in the school paper asking why students are not allowed to defend themselves, the administration WILL notice. Especially if they get a half-dozen or so phone calls asking them about it every hour.
Talk to your friends. Ask them to talk to their friends. It's called grass roots organization, and the left knows how to make it work. We need to learn.
Just do it.
If you want to sway the decision-makers' opinions, you're going to have to approach them through venues like on-campus media. If there's a half-dozen letters to the editor in the school paper asking why students are not allowed to defend themselves, the administration WILL notice. Especially if they get a half-dozen or so phone calls asking them about it every hour.
Talk to your friends. Ask them to talk to their friends. It's called grass roots organization, and the left knows how to make it work. We need to learn.
Just do it.
Cavuto doesn't seem to get it... In fact, after watching the "Packing Heat" video and the other Video talking about the "connection" between the VT and NIL shooters I would think he doesn't get it at all.
First, the whole logic of "What if a criminal gets a gun" is a joke. They have them already. They are using them. IN the case of the college shootings it happened and the "law abiding" were powerless to stop it. Simply stated if a drug dealer was in VT or Ill classroom, he would have engaged the shooters simply because he doesn't want to die. It isn't as if all of the evil people band together like union workers once someone starts shooting. There interests (for that instant) lie with the law abiding because they want to live.
Second, the "connection" between the VT and Ill shooters... Is this a joke? They bought magazines at the same place... So. Did they also fill up at Shell? Buy a shirt a kmart?
First, the whole logic of "What if a criminal gets a gun" is a joke. They have them already. They are using them. IN the case of the college shootings it happened and the "law abiding" were powerless to stop it. Simply stated if a drug dealer was in VT or Ill classroom, he would have engaged the shooters simply because he doesn't want to die. It isn't as if all of the evil people band together like union workers once someone starts shooting. There interests (for that instant) lie with the law abiding because they want to live.
Second, the "connection" between the VT and Ill shooters... Is this a joke? They bought magazines at the same place... So. Did they also fill up at Shell? Buy a shirt a kmart?
bl4ckd0g
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That's a hard argument to swallow considering the amount of dorm room theft on many campuses. Many frat houses have a common safe for their firearms, but that's a rare situation.
Dorm room theft? That's exactly the kind of alarmist argument some people are using to make this sound like a radical idea. They're trying to conjure up this image of 18 year old college kids showing up to school ready to party, and getting handed a gun. Most of the schools out West are largely commuter campuses, where most students move off campus after their first year, or never live on campus at all. If you're still living in the dorms once you're old enough to get a permit, you understand what's necessary to secure your belongings, like a small safe that's chained or bolted to something. I'm guessing very few of these CFP holders that would be carrying on campus would live in the dorms.
yy
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irrelevant. It was a sneak attack. Action beats reaction.
We the law abiding will suffer losses from illegal and cowardly attacks. The important lesson is to learn how to reduce those losses in any statistically significant way. Deterrent is a step in the right direction.
But remember, these are students. I remember being focused on the lecture. Condition Yellow can be distracting while trying to ace the class.
Perhaps the equivalent of an air marshal? We can't all afford armed guards and sniper suppport...
We the law abiding will suffer losses from illegal and cowardly attacks. The important lesson is to learn how to reduce those losses in any statistically significant way. Deterrent is a step in the right direction.
But remember, these are students. I remember being focused on the lecture. Condition Yellow can be distracting while trying to ace the class.
Perhaps the equivalent of an air marshal? We can't all afford armed guards and sniper suppport...
That would be an awesome job! Only worrying about security issues and being able to let everything else slide would be sweet. I think you would be able to maintain proper awareness of potential threats during lectures and learn something at the same time. I look young enough to be your average college student. Where do I sign up? Darn, once again, that sounds like an awesome job.yy said:
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Oh, and smoking hot pre-med or pre-law blondes!
Gunnerpalace
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Yeah! that is something I would love to do.
jrfoxx
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Wasnt a problem at Michigan Tech where I went to college (granted, this was back in '92, so I dont know if it's changed).Every dorm had an "arms room" in the basement.You were given a heavy duty locker or lockers, depending on what you needed, and you had the keys to them.The main room was always locked (it was a setup where the lock re-engaged as soon as the key was out of the door, and the door closed automatically), and every Resident Assistant on every floor of the dorm had a key to the room.Even if the guy from your floor was out, there was always at least 1 from another floor around.No thefts, no problems.Freind and I used to sit on the wall outside out dorm and clean our guns after shooting.No one ever even gave us a second look.I will admit that this university is in the middle of nowhere in the upper peninsula of MI, so it may not be/have been "typical", but, the point is, it worked just fine.
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