The Usual AR question: Bushmaster or Rock River

Bushmaster is the best.

Comparing a Bushy and RRA of the (appx.) same cost, the RRA is a better gun to shoot. Can't beat the NM trigger standard.

FFMedic

Rock River Arms...

Buy The RR

When the DEA went with the Rock River platform they tested alot of different rifles. Of course they can't tell you who the players were that submitted rifles for testing but you can guess that many of the big names were there, all seeking a government contract.

I'd buy the Rock River .

If he's that good of a shooter....I'm inclined to think that he may know this better than most of us here....

I mean....how many of us have both rifles and SERIOUSLY compared the accuracy of the two....and then again, that's compareing 2 rifles (ok, some of you may have more bushies and RRA...), but I feel that the numbers are too small to come up with definitive conclusion, not to mention number of different ammos you have to test to come up with any statistically significant conclusion....

Neither is better, but the Bushmaster competition trigger is known to have problems. A good entry level target setup would be an RRA lower with NM trigger and this upper: http://www.whiteoakprecision.com/uppers-service.htm
Yor friend would have to spend a lot more to do just a little bit better.

HTH,

vanfunk

Rock River, only bushmaster I ever had was a jam-o-matic.

My bushy works just fine. No jams as of 1000 rounds.

If its the "usual" question why didnt u just do a search instead of starting a thread

If he is wanting an AR for highpower and he wants either the Bushmaster or Rock River there is only one choice.

The Rock River.

The Bushmaster is fine except for the trigger.

You could buy the Bushmaster and then spend about $100 for a Rock River trigger but I don't see the logic in that.

I am pretty happy with most all of my Bushmaster products so I guess you could call me a Bushmaster guy.
When I came up with some extra money at short notice I decided to buy myself an entry level match gun and intended to get a Bushy. No one had one in stock and when I was about to order one the best local store was haveing a sale on in stock rifles and had an available RRNM. Because of the sale the RR was $175 cheeper than what the bushy would have been if I was to order so I took it home that day. I believe that usually the prices of the RR and the Bushy are within $50 at most stores.
I have to say I have been very happy with my RR (Won the local service rifle match just last saturday!). Several guys at my club have the bushy, both have been happy,one had some adjustment issues with the bushmaster competition trigger.
I have a Bushmaster Varmit special that I bought used and although I haven't messed with it much I believe I will junk the trigger and replace it with the RRNM trigger. It is not that it is horrible but it is quite different than the RRNM trigger that I have in my match gun and several other lowers. The Varmint gun does not shoot as well as I expect it should and I have come to believe it is because of the trigger.
I honestly think decideing between the RR and the Bushy is sort of similar to the old Ford vs. Chevy deal but I believe most folks have more experience and therefore more confidence in the RR Trigger.


I have heard nothing but good things about the white oak gear the other gentleman sugested so that really should be the best way to go. It appears you would wind up with a better barrel and better sights for nearly the same money

RRA is a slightly better built gun IMO.

BM will ship a rifle in a reasonable timeframe.

After wating 6 months or more for a stripped lower (insead of the four to six weeks I was told) RRA has left a bad taste in my mouth.

From the relatively little i know for sure, I also gotta say RR.

In this case I would choose the RRA.

Iv'e heard things about Bushmaster.

Iv'e never heard of problems with RRA.

That said, with all due respect to Bushmaster, I prefer Rock River and even have some RRA parts.

This would be for matches? Service rifle or match rifle? Probably service rifle if he is replacing an M1A. Then skip the RRA and BM and go to White Oak Precision for the upper.

Lee

When the DEA went with the Rock River platform they tested alot of different rifles. Of course they can't tell you who the players were that submitted rifles for testing but you can guess that many of the big names were there, all seeking a government contract.

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What you're saying is RRA was low bid. Big whoop.

Buy a RRA or a Bushmaster for high power, and you'll be getting spanked by the guys shooting White Oaks.

When the DEA went with the Rock River platform they tested alot of different rifles.

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Yeah, since the DEA is the Gold Standard...



With that said, Rock River makes a fine AR. However, to use the DEA anecdote as the sole reasoning for your purchase; thats a bit misguided.

The majority of highpower shooters that use a factory AR use the RR.

Many that use other factory AR's have a RR trigger in the rifle.

The newer DCM Bushmaster is an improvement over the older one but they still have that junk trigger.

What you're saying is RRA was low bid. Big whoop.

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Yeah, since the DEA is the Gold Standard...

With that said, Rock River makes a fine AR. However, to use the DEA anecdote as the sole reasoning for your purchase; thats a bit misguided.

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LOL, Go ahead live life misinformed or passing on personal opinions with no facts. I know enough about the DEA ar15 test to tell you that they were not low bid. Also they had one heck of a torture test in which Rock River beat the rest. I wish people would not sling mud "low bid" bs when they have no idea of the true facts.

The DEA agent who shot himself speaks for himself and really doesn't represent the DEA as a whole. Nor, did he have anything to do with their ar-15 testing which occurred several years before this incident. I'm sure you cop bashers out there have a different take on the matter and that's ok.

Bottom line RRA was put through the ringer and came out on top and they were not the low bidder.

(QUOTE) "Yeah, since the DEA is the Gold Standard..."

HIGH-larious !!! YOU-TUBE at its finest, great video,that one was !! The DEA genius telling the class how he, and only he, is qualified to handle this pistol......then shoots himself in front of the whole class !!! World-class funny !!!
( OK, maybe not comletely "high-road", but the guy didn't mortally wound himself, or anyone else, and he WAS talkin' it up pretty good.Hey, you gonna talk the talk, you get to walk the walk !! )

Bushmaster with their chrome lined bores-for sure.

Bushmaster with their chrome lined bores-for sure.

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He said benchrest. Us normal guys would never notice the difference but a benchrester would and chrome lined just isn't as accurate as unlined.

Add to that that the BM trigger isn't quite up to the quality of the RR and the answer to the OP's question is RR.

Aside: I've owned two BM's. One was a jamomatic, went back to the factory and came back with an overtorqued barrel. The other works flawlessly. And that BM experience in and of itself is enough for me to say go with the RR.