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I just bought what might be my last bulk pack of Remington 22LR from Wal-Mart.... $16!!!

Federal is $12. It was just a couple of years ago the Remington was $10 and Federal $9. Sure the price of raw materials have gone up, but that's a small part of the cost of ammunition. Until prices come down I'll be buying something cheaper.
 
My .22's all like the federal bulk......
That's what I feed them, and with the prices on centerfire ammo, my .22's are getting more and more of a workout....
 
What is cheaper to shoot than 22rf? I would shift to Federal. I expect prices to go up again. So you might consider rhe $16 price cheap in a month or so.
 
All of my various .22's like the Federal stuff, and Federal's "American Eagle" brand.

None of them like the Rem "Thunderbolts"
 
Let me know when you find something cheaper than .22LR, especially Wal-mart .22LR.

In case you haven't noticed, fuel prices have been increasing. Ammo is heavy, and it's not made in the back room of Wal-mart. It's got to get there somehow.
 
Yes, ammo has increased in price...and it's going to go higher! Better lay in stock for the years ahead now, at these soon-to-be cheap prices!

Consider...Russian imported ammo is double the price it was last year. And if the Democrats take over, foriegn imports will probably be cut off, and exorbitant taxes added to all types of ammunition, according to the local anti-gun group!:cuss:

If you shoot center fire frequently, I suggest you set up for reloading and buy components in bulk now...:rolleyes: You might even consider setting up to cast your most commonly used bullets...rifle as well as pistol.
 
Federal is $12. It was just a couple of years ago the Remington was $10 and Federal $9.

Years? Try months! I have a sales receipt around here somewhere for a brick of Federal that was $8 on sale, from last December.
 
Sure the price of raw materials have gone up, but that's a small part of the cost of ammunition.

Other than raw materials, and the diesel fuel to get the ammo from the factory to the store (which has also gone up quite a bit), what makes up the majority cost of ammunition?
 
I'm sure the chief cost is labor. It is almost always is with manufactured products.

Commodity and energy prices alone are enough to cause the price increases. They will continue to go higher (my guess) although I was hoping that fuel prices had topped off for a while. Oil was $142 a barrel this morning.
 
Hey guys, I'm not saying I'm not going to shoot 22LR anymore, just that I'm going to buy something other than the (now more expensive) Remingtons.
 
Other than raw materials, and the diesel fuel to get the ammo from the factory to the store (which has also gone up quite a bit), what makes up the majority cost of ammunition?
The labor for manufacturing employees, building rent, telephone expense, depreciation, advertising, marketing, accounting, human resources, IT support, the plant manager, transportation costs including the truck fuel and the driver's salary, interest expense, office supplies, repairs and maintenance of facility and equipment, disposal of waste, legal & professional fees... just to name a few.

Don't forget markup (profit) on the manufacturer's end and on the retailer's end.
 
If you think a $3 price increase on .22 is so unthinkable I hope you don't shoot larger calibers.

Everything increases in price with time.
 
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All of my various .22's like the Federal stuff, and Federal's "American Eagle" brand.

None of them like the Rem "Thunderbolts"

X2, the Rems seem to stovepipe or not fire at all much more often than the Federals in my Ruger MKII
 
Direct labor is probably a very, very small part of the price. More likely, the materials are actually the largest component of the cost.
 
Well I work in a manufacturing environment and by far labor and materials to make product is chump change compared to the office worker, facilities, computers ect that a company uses.
When calculating the cost of our products, the raw materials account for 3-5% of the cost, mfging labor is about 10%. 60% is everything else.
 
I don't know what the actual cost breakdown on 22 ammo is. One thing i do know is it is a huge bargain for what you get.

Most of it is very accurate, reliable and the best shooting bargain there is. If it were twice the money it would still be cheap. I don't know how they make, package, ship it and then sell it at the retail level and still make money.

I think i'll go to WM and get a few more boxes this weekend.
 
Let's calculate the real component price, then, and see what percent it is now, and what it was last year. Just pulled a .22 from a Remington bulk pack I bought last fall for $10. The bullet weighs 39.8 gr, even though it says 36 gr on the box. The powder charge is 1.8 gr. The case weighs 10.2 gr with the priming compound in it.

It never ceases to amaze me how wimpy rimfire priming is. You can just barely hear the "pop" over the "click" of the firing pin. A toy cork gun makes considerably more noise. Anyway, after popping the thing twice (only half the priming compound blew the first time) and cleaning out the case, it weighs 10.0 gr.

I don't know how much the brass wash on the bullet weighs. Let's be generous and say that the bullet weighed 36 gr before it was brass/copper washed. To be generous again, let's assume it's pure copper, since that's worth more. Cartridge brass is 30% zinc, 70% copper.

So in each Remington 550 round brick, you've got:

19800 gr lead
5940 gr copper
1650 gr zinc
990 gr smokeless powder
110 gr priming compound

At present, lead is $0.80 per pound, copper is $3.95, and zinc is $0.86. I don't know what powder costs in bulk, but the cheapest powder on Cabelas.com is $15 per pound if bought 8 pounds at a time. I'd guess they're paying way less than $10 per pound, then, so let's go with $10. And let's assume priming compound costs the same, because I have no clue.

lead - $2.263
copper - $3.352
zinc - $0.203
explosives - $1.571

So that's $7.39 per brick in materials. Assuming Federal is the same (I've pulled them too, and they pretty much are), materials 61.6% of the cost of Federal, and 46.2% of the cost of Remington.

But, now let's see what materials cost precisely 1 year ago. Hm, Kitco is messing up. Can't get historical charts. I'll have to finish later.

Got them to work. Last June, copper was $3.50 a pound. Lead was around $1.18 per pound (yes, lead is actually now cheaper than it was last year!), Zinc was $1.62 or so. Zinc's come way down. Powder and primers were a bit less, so call them $8 a pound in bulk. This is why I wanted to do the thing compared to last year. Lead and zinc and several other metals are down in price, and copper hasn't risen that much.

lead - $3.338
copper - $2.970
zinc - $0.382
explosives - $1.257

That's $7.95 per 550 in materials. At $9 and $10 a brick, materials were 88.3% of Federal and 79.5% of Remington.

It's a combination of shipping charges and panic buying, most likely. Plus numerous companies have lied and said lead prices are skyrocketing and never going to come down, thus justifying their price hikes. Well, here's the 1 year lead chart:

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Yes, prices went way up early last year and it took manufacturers awhile to go through their old stocks of lead that was bought at the cheaper price. But now they're going back down. Pretty soon, they'll go up again. Then they'll go down. That's how markets work.
 

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Those numbers are fins for guys that do small quantities, but when you buy the materials by the trainload, it is less than half the cost...And they buy the Materials by the trainload, thats for sure...

Some of u guys are gonna be going with BB guns soon,lol..
 
No, those prices (except powder) are the market value. As in, the cost of the actual material, no transportation or fabrication fees whatsoever. If you buy a million tons of lead, right now you will pay 80 cents per pound, plus fabrication and transportation.

Small quantities are totally different. If you buy a single brand new copper pipe, you can expect to pay about $20 per pound or more (a 0.74 pound copper pipe costs $18, just checked). Then if you turn around and sell it for scrap, you're only going to get $1 per pound or so. But $3.95 is still the current market value.
 
I still want to know why a box of 25 20 gauge cheap shot is 6 dollars and a box of 50 HMR is 13
 
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