For the Wifey SIG P232 .380acp

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Can you not get a great deal from Sig since you work for them? A refurbished one, or new one, cause I think you'd be looking at min 400 bucks for a so so one and UP for a really nice used one.. especially if it's an SL model.

If not, then for the lower cost, maybe even a better gun, you should go for one with aluminum frame, instead of the heavier, and more expensive SL model, which I have, but IMO, its extra weight, actually works against the shooter, as kinda in the old saying, the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

I really duuno, as only have shot some 1400 rounds thru mine, SL model, and she definitely has a snappy torque, and flip-up of the muzzle, with each shot.

And the wife, as I said, could not bond with it at all.. it just plain scared her, unlike the EMP 9mm.. she loves it, trust it, 100%


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Now the question of the matter is how much am I looking at spending to have said weapon???

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Here is an idea of prices.
The used P232SL was just purchased for $450 including the Nill grips.
The used blued P230 was purchased about 2 months ago for $315. I added the Hogue grips.
The Rainbow Titanium was purchased about 15 months ago for $400 and I added the Nills.
If you search the "Big Three" sites you can find a nice pistol for a decent price, or shop the local shops for trade-ins.

I wanna shop at your LGS

"I'm another guy that had a Bersa and has a P232. I've purchased a total of four P232s, one NIB for $400 and three used...two at $315, and a stainless with Nill grips for $450. With the Bersa around $250 or so, the extra few dollars for the P232 is well spent IMHO. Good deals can be had on a nice P232."


Good deals on those Sigs! I got my 232SL for $425 ( minus the Nills). One thing about the 9's getting smaller is that the larger .380s are popping up cheap in the used areas. Mine was lucky if it saw a box of ammo through it.

One thing about the 9's getting smaller is that the larger .380s are popping up cheap in the used areas. Mine was lucky if it saw a box of ammo through it.

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And many of us, including myself prefer a full size .380 like the P232 or Beretta M84/85 series over a mini 9MM because they shoot well, are well made and accurate.

My wife took a look at the Sig not too long ago and found that the grips were too large for her hands, so I'd take a hard look at that first. She also had difficulty racking the slide, although she eventually got it done. We ended up getting her a Beretta Tomcat, which she said felt more comfortable to hold, aim, and shoot.

Are we taking about the same guns here? About the only thing I can find that might be considered "sharp" are the corners of the hammer and maybe the edge of the disconnector.

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I thought exactly the same thing. My stainless 232 comes pretty close to qualifying as "dehorned".

My only complaint is the ergonomics of the decocker.

If the Bersa is the same size, same caliber, and is easier to rack the slide.....doesn't that mean that it uses weaker, crappy springs?

If your wife can't chamber a round in the Sig, have her look at revolvers. They're easier in every way for non-shooters to manipulate.

My wife had a G19 for her first carry gun. She would occasionally forget to chamber a round before going out, or forget to clear the chamber before putting it away. Now she has a revolver and she can always see if it is loaded, and there is zero effort involved in clearing and loading it.

My wife likes the stainless M60 S&W, it's heavier than the ultra-lightweight aluminum framed guns so it recoils much less. Firing those aluminum J-frames hurts like hell with decent ammunition, and most people I've seen with them develope a horrible flinch.

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Take her out again and look at wheelguns. I'd have her try a 3" SP101, 2" stainless J-frame, 2" aluminum J-frame, 4" K-frame, and a 3" GP100. The Rugers and 4" S&W are pussycats with .38s, but can be loaded with great +p.38 loads for defense.

Firing those aluminum J-frames hurts like hell with decent ammunition, and most people I've seen with them develope a horrible flinch.

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Yup, they do get painful. I can usually only take about a box of my hot practice reloads at a time. Constant practice eliminates the flinch issue.

My Model 60 is no treat either with hot loads. Most all the smaller revolvers are a chore to shoot with and usually require more time and work to shoot them well.

You really do have to practice with what you plan on using in them, or the equivalent power level reloads. Practicing with wadcutters and then throwing +P's in the gun and thinking your good is a mistake.

If the Bersa is the same size, same caliber, and is easier to rack the slide.....doesn't that mean that it uses weaker, crappy springs?

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That's a strange logic...

That's a strange logic...

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How's that?

Same caliber, same size spring, so if one is easier to chamber it must have a weaker spring.

Got a better explaination?

We considered the 232 for my wife when we were shopping for her carry piece. In the end we went with the 239 in 9mm instead. She has tiny hands and both guns fit her well with Hogue rubber grips, but she liked the 239 better because it has a thumb button release for the mag, and it fires a more potent cartridge with less perceived recoil. When firing both guns, she felt that the 232 "kicked" harder than the larger 239 in 9mm.

I have to admit though that the 232 is a darn sexy little gun. Nonetheless, she decided on the 239 and she loves it. She can shoot it like a champ, and it carries well in her purse. It may be something to consider.

Same caliber, same size spring, so if one is easier to chamber it must have a weaker spring.

Got a better explaination?

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You mean like "lighter slide" maybe?