"This Gun Can't Kill You, But It Could Send You to Prison"

Oh -- And as far as a bb gun killing you, couldn't it get up under the skin and cause a nasty infection? Or put an eye out?

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Children have been killed with BB/pellet guns. A 'net search will bring up the news articles on the deaths and subsequent trials.

In states such as New Jersey a BB gun is considered a firearm.

In every state I can think of brandishing a BB gun as if it were an actual gun (such as armed robbery) it is also considered an actual firearm for punishment purposes.

It's probably airsoft.

And a sensationalist 'news' piece about how realistic airsoft guns are nowadays, that every one of them should come in bright day-glo orange and have a warning siren, and people that buy them are bad people that should feel bad.

We sell high end pellet pistols that are indistinguishable from the real thing, Beretta, Walter, Ruger. Even if you were handed one you'd think it was real

http://www.pyramydair.com/p/walther-ppk-bb-gun.shtml

I have it... nice bb gun.

I have seen some of the "AirSoft" 1911's, that other than the hole in the muzzle, it was extremely difficult to tell apart from the real deal.

I have one. A BB caliber PPK. The power level sucks because of the "blow-back action" slide being run by a 12gram CO2 cartridge.
On the question, the reason BB guns do not have the orange tip is because they can be dangerous, even lethal. Pointing one at a cop should get you shot. If you don't tell your kids that before you get one for them, you seriously need to reevaluate what you consider your priorities.

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thought about getting a ppk/s in Co2/BB

it can even be made full-auto......

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=34EIpwe9gCk

Without seeing the actual story, I'd have to guess they are referring to the fact that displaying a realistic looking representation of a gun can be a crime is some circumstances. We all know that even implying you have a gun during a robbery adds the armed aspect to the crime. Displaying a toy gun in a manner that causes alarm or panic would probably be another unwise thing to do.

I've *heard* tales of incidents whereby the occupant of a car points a small cordless drill an another motorist (in the dark they can be very gun-like) and is subsequently arrested. Stuff like that.

K

Many years ago, one night a neighbor heard what he thought was someone breaking into his front window. He decided to scare them off and he came out on his own porch with a pellet pistol in hand. He apparently didn't want to actually shoot anyone, just run them off.
Somebody had called the police, maybe the neighbor himself, and, in the dark, he pointed his airgun at a someone coming around the corner of the house. Unfortunately it turned out to be one of the cops.........who reacted to what looked like a deadly threat and shot him dead.
The shooting was judged justified.
Sad, but true.
If it looks like a duck.....................

It's a lot easier to kill someone with a baseball bat and get away with it rather than point a gun at a person!!

If any gun shaped object doesn't have that blaze orange tip on the end of the barrel, it is considered a lethal weapon.

In my state the menacing statute applies to threatened violence. It is a misdemeanor if no weapon is used. It is a felony if a real or simulated weapon is used. Merely pointing a real or simulated firearm at someone can be enough to sustain a charge of felony menacing.

MP7; I have one...fun but pretty light on the power. Any idea how they made it full auto? (don't reply if it's illegal...I have no idea if a full-auto BB pistol falls under the ATF Class 3 rules)

Like others have said, even if it's not a real firearm, it could still trigger certain sentence-enhancing statutes in some states as a simulated firearm/deadly weapon.

We had a display one at the shop for parents who came in wanting to buy that sort of thing or realistic Airsofts for minor children - most didn't realize how 'real' the "toys" they were buying were.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with most children having toys, even realistic ones - but informing the parent was part of my job as well selling it if I was going to be responsible.

I didn't see where you were from, but I think there are several eastern states that classify "imitation guns" and airguns as firearms depending on how they are used.

In most places it's pretty simple. You use a gun in a crime, then you're charged with using a gun in a crime, and it doesn't matter if the gun was real, airsoft, pellet, or a blue training gun spraypainted black.

And I say /most/ places, because I have no idea exactly how certain states treat airsoft. I don't know of a place in the USA that arbitrarily considers all airsoft or replica guns to be actual firearms, but that doesn't mean there aren't any.

I wouldn't think the orange tip would really matter. Couldn't you stick an orange tip on a real firearm?

kurtmax said:

Couldn't you stick an orange tip on a real firearm?

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Yeah, it's called spray paint!

i had an airsoft pistol, a model of a USP40 that was made in Japan in 1995. The slide was machined aluminum, aircraft-grade. It was indistinguishable from the real thing when we put it side-by-side with a real one. I actually kinda regret selling it, as it was an exceedingly rare piece.

How dose poseing this hand gun send you to prision? I can see using this weapon in a robery being grounds for prision but how dose just having it put you in prision?

Oh -- And as far as a bb gun killing you, couldn't it get up under the skin and cause a nasty infection? Or put an eye out?

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Actually, a friend shot my buddy on the chest with a bb rifle. The bb sunk into his skin and we couldn't get it out. Years had passed and I asked my buddy, "Hey what ever happened to that bb you got shot with?" It basically traveled around onto his back and popped out of his skin.

I saw the trailer on tv here; if I remember right, one of the pistols looked EXACTLY like the Bersa .380. It was identical. There was no orange marking on the muzzle; I can see that this could really be taken as the real thing.