Looking for a 9MM

One of the 9mm 3rd gen S&W autos would fit that bill easily. I've got a 3913 and it is easily one of my 2 favorite guns. Granted the 3913 doesn't meet your mag capacity specs, but one of the larger 3rd gen 9mm's would, and it would fall easily into your specified price range.

If those were my criteria, I would choose a CZ75. The Beretta 92 is another option as is the Taurus. Neither fit my hand, but they fit the criteria. The Glock 19 is certainly a viable candidate. The SIG 226 is a great gun though maybe too expensive. A Browning Hi-Power would be an outstanding choice. But the CZ75 is my pick.

What is it about your M&P40 that you feel doesn't fit the bill? Have you considered getting another M&P, this time in 9mm? Or how about an aftermarket 9mm barrel (and save your money for ammo, or something you've always considered too expensive)?

With handguns, you kinda need to decide where you belong. (The following is all opinion only - feel free to disagree.) There are the 9mm handguns with manual thumb safeties, and then there are those without. I'm not talking about passive safeties like a grip safety or a trigger safety.

If you want a manual safety, there are 1911's (in 9mm), Hi-Powers, S&W, 92FS, CZ-75B, and some less-trodden stuff like the Sig P210. Some of these are single action only and require carrying cocked & locked, while some others have decockers.

On the other hand, you've got the 'no-safety' types which include almost all of the DA-SA type autos with a decocker, and the 'DAO" Glock/XD/M&P/Kahr and etc. type autos (yes, I know, most of these aren't really DAO), and also all revolvers.

Then you've got wild hairs like H&K USP which can be had either way, and the P7M8 which defies conventional classification (grip-cocking single action).

Anyway, point is ... I'm a believer in being on one side of this fence or the other. When you're all butt-puckered in a self-defense scenario, you either want to be trained for that safety being there, or trained for it not being there. We can convince ourselves that training for different manual of arms can overcome panic and adrenalin, but I prefer handguns that have same set of instructions across the board .... draw, aim, fire. I'm used to revolvers and Glocks so I don't want a manual safety in my way. I'm currently waiting on an M&P 9 myself, to see if it can unseat the Glock for me as it has for some other folks.

Since you already have an M&P, which has no manual safety, I would suggest sticking to that side of the fence, or else committing to the other side.

Again, just my opinion. I'm sure there will be plenty who disagree. It's you that has to decide.

XD(M) 9mm holds 19+1.

Vinny, FWIW, and again this is just my opinion, .40S&W is a horrible starting point when it comes to centerfire handguns. (I know cuz I did it too - Glock 27 ) I'm no wuss, I'm not typically recoil shy, and I'm not a small man by a long shot ... but I don't mind admitting I do not handle the .40 in polymer pistols as well I wish I could. I can pull off carefully aimed single shots at my own pace all right, but that's not something I expect most bad guys will accomodate. If I had the time and money to run off 500 or more rounds a month like some guys here do, perhaps I'd get there. But my wallet won't allow it, so the nine is fine.

How about a Cougar, they are very accurate, feed everything, recoil is lessened or at least different due to action type, 15 rnd mag, safety/decocker, and well within your budget, maybe even a little less... I paid ~$380.00 for mine and I love it. It's a great gun and terrific bargain. IMHO
Johnny Orygun

For the money

The CZ75B is a good choice, very accurate, fits the hand like a glove and extremely easy to field strip and clean. Another one you might consider is the Ruger SR9 (17+1), great shooter, eats anything, field strips in a snap and has adjustable rear sight....

DS

XD9. Very nice handgun that isn't overly expensive.

CZ... the b model is a well proven design and would fit your needs perfectly. If you happen across the PCR buy it.

I just looked at a baby Eagle polymer frame......shhheeiiiit. That thing felt nice in my hand. very close to the CZ models.

If only I could get one in a high/standard cap rather than the 10 round handicapped mag.....

JMOfartO:

S&W 6906 w/S&W "grip+2" mag extender.. 15+1 capacity.
The top photo above show the 6906 w/15rd 5906 mag, and the second photo shows the 6906 w/the factory issued 12rd mag.

Surprisingly, I prefer the "feel" of the 6906 with the 5906 mags over the factory 12rd'ers.

Just another choice.

Best Wishes,

Jesse

Beretta 92

M&P9

Assuming you like the M&P in .40 outside the calibre, I would get an M&P in 9mm. That way you could directly compare the recoil and handling of the calibre in the same size gun.

kAHR

cw9 AROUND $419, super handgun


Kahr PM9, Around $525, super lite, super small and yes goes bang every time.

Now ifyou want to waist band carry, there are literally dozens of great 9's out there, including the Kahr K9.

I cant tell you what to do but I can tell you I am well satisfied with the CZ75 and the taurus 92. what ever you get practice, practice, then practice somemore. Oh ya and keep it clean.

IF this is something you intend on ever carrying, even if only in a SHTF situation:

KEEP IN MIND YOU WILL NEED TO GET A HOLSTER TO FIT THE WEAPON.

I consider myself a gun & gear collector. I have been BURNED by the lack of holster selection on the weapons I have chosen (specifically my USP45 Tactical and Kel-Tec PF-9). I ended up having to buy the expensive made-to-order holsters from Comp-Tac and Blade-Tech for them.

In retrospect, I think it was for the best, since I can comfortably carry my weapon(s) of choice now, and these are pretty darn high quality holsters.

But if you don't HAVE a weapon of choice yet, it might be a good idea to consider your carrying options beforehand.

1. Fairly accurate at 25+ yards.
2. Easy to clean.
3. Very forgiving of cheap ammo.
4. Great recoil control. In other words, if I double-tap, I'm not going to wonder where the 2nd round went.
5. Reliable even when dirty. Yes, I always clean after a day at the range but I want something reliable and durable in case I'm stuck in a Katrina or LA riot scenario and I don't have the opportunity to clean until I'm out of the area a week later.
6. High capacity (15+).
7. Safety preferred. I wish the Glock 19 had a manual safety.--> (or try the similar austrian striker fired Steyr M9 w/M.S.)
8. Price range $400-$600 preferred.

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Some 9mm's available with a M.S. and at least 15 +1:
-H.K.'s (U.S.P. in V-1)
-F.N. (F.N.P. 9)
-C.Z. (75/85B S.A.)
-Steyr M9 (w/M.S.)
-S&W full size metal frames (910)
-Berettas (92, PX4, 90-two etc)
-double stack "1911's" (Para, S.T.I. etc)
-Taurus (92, 7-11's and Millenium Falcons L.O.L.)


I would recommend an H.K. Or the GLOCK if you decide you can live w/o the manual safety, in which case your options also open up to D.A./S.A.'s like Sig (note that SigPro or P250 do meet your capacity requirements). I am also not entirely comfortable carrying the GLOCK "safe-action" trigger as-is, but a GLOCK in 9mm might be a great choice for you since you are O.K. with the M&P trigger. Everything you describe regarding durability and reliability under extreme conditions (I.E. running dirty or dry), toughest finish, and while not everyone loves the ergonomics (not my favorite), there is no denying its trigger, fast reset, and low bore axis help get you back on picture fast, if it's follow-up shots you seek to improve.

It also sounds like you like your M&P, but just want a manual safety on it and chambered in a less snappy caliber than .40 S&W. So not an official recommendation per your criteria, but I'll just point out the M&P is available with a thumb safety in .45 A.C.P. Of course only 10 +1 rounds. If you relaxed the capacity requirement, there'd be a ton more options anyways.

glock safety

If you stated you liked the glock but wish it had a safety, just go to SIDERLOCK.COM andl ook at that drop in safety for your glock. IMO one of the finest safety systems ever made, still used the glock SAS trigger but this is a all steel machined drop in trigger with a safety where it belongs.

I have one on my sons G19 and it is awsome. Alot of people feel uncomfortable with the glock SAS which is really safe it you keep you finger in your nose and not on the trigger but I do also understand.

There is a cure for those wanting a glock and a safety other than what glock offers. The siderlock required zero MODIFICATION. Take it back out and reinstall the glock trigger and you are back to first base again.

In Tasmania, the cops carry Glock 17's with an M1911-style safety switch. Of course, they come with 10-round magazines, but maybe the gun can still load the traditional Glock 17 17-round mags? I don't know how you'd get one...