MaterDei
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I store mine in a Loc Box.
Best Way To Store HD Shotgun?
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karz10
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For those that want to lock up in quick access box:
http://www.purchase.thesafeoutlet.com/ see riflelocker
http://www.vlineind.com/html/closet_vault.html
The rifle locker has 1/2" bolts and mounts between studs, has a tube key override, an electronic keypad w/ tamper and low batt notifier, a charger, and you can configure shelves and holsters on the door...
The V-line has latching simplex lock, so there's like one thick bolt right where the buttons are, or two additional locking points for longer term storage w/ a key. So, no battery to mess with, but not a uniform bolt patter like the rifleocker, and I think less thick door. Still configurable w/ accessories, but I think by the time you add the door panel and stuff the price difference is minimal.
Unlike the OP, I have kids in the house, and even if I didn't I would still want to lock up the gun to try to keep it off the street, but still have quick access to it as soon as I came home.
I have quicker access to a handgun on my hip, or by my bed in another lock box, but I wanted a way to keep a couple long guns at the ready. I was saving for one of these when I ran across a local guy selling one he never installed. I bought the riflelocker at a decent discount this way. Just got it actually, about to mount it, but I've tested it out so far, all is well.
I figure I could keep the 12 ga pump in there w/ a bandolier or something, a rifle, and a backup handgun for me, and one for the mrs.
I want to keep other things in a bigger safe/rsc, once I have those things, but figured this was the prudent thing to do first for quick access stuff, since where I want to put the safe will be more secured and take longer to get into.
Karz
http://www.purchase.thesafeoutlet.com/ see riflelocker
http://www.vlineind.com/html/closet_vault.html
The rifle locker has 1/2" bolts and mounts between studs, has a tube key override, an electronic keypad w/ tamper and low batt notifier, a charger, and you can configure shelves and holsters on the door...
The V-line has latching simplex lock, so there's like one thick bolt right where the buttons are, or two additional locking points for longer term storage w/ a key. So, no battery to mess with, but not a uniform bolt patter like the rifleocker, and I think less thick door. Still configurable w/ accessories, but I think by the time you add the door panel and stuff the price difference is minimal.
Unlike the OP, I have kids in the house, and even if I didn't I would still want to lock up the gun to try to keep it off the street, but still have quick access to it as soon as I came home.
I have quicker access to a handgun on my hip, or by my bed in another lock box, but I wanted a way to keep a couple long guns at the ready. I was saving for one of these when I ran across a local guy selling one he never installed. I bought the riflelocker at a decent discount this way. Just got it actually, about to mount it, but I've tested it out so far, all is well.
I figure I could keep the 12 ga pump in there w/ a bandolier or something, a rifle, and a backup handgun for me, and one for the mrs.
I want to keep other things in a bigger safe/rsc, once I have those things, but figured this was the prudent thing to do first for quick access stuff, since where I want to put the safe will be more secured and take longer to get into.
Karz
kwelz
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You realize this has been beaten to death right and springs do not develop a "Set"
Bryan_Willman
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Having done an experiment with dummys in which I found fully loaded and chambered with safety on was the fastest to deploy for me, that's how I store the HD gun. (6+1) [This might change if more practice proves unchambered is as fast, since no round in chamber means no drop risk, no discharge risk in a fire, etc.]
It's in a safe near the bed with a very rapid electronic lock - plan is to win the footrace to the safe. Things like alarms, etc. will be added to make sure of that.
I also practice removing the gun in a fashion where I won't drop it, and if I do drop it, the muzzle won't be pointed at me.
Safety off is very fast on an 870, so safety stays on.
It's in a safe near the bed with a very rapid electronic lock - plan is to win the footrace to the safe. Things like alarms, etc. will be added to make sure of that.
I also practice removing the gun in a fashion where I won't drop it, and if I do drop it, the muzzle won't be pointed at me.
Safety off is very fast on an 870, so safety stays on.
Big Daddy Grim
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I got an old Double barrel with two in the barrels more on the stock I leave it in an old saddle case hanging on my wall its ready when I need it. It doesn't even have a safety.
shevrock
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I have some homemade wooden shelves covering the entire wall in my room. on top is my shotgun. 5 in tube. slide open. one nearby. safety on. if needed put in a shell, then undo the safety. my shotgun's 6+1 BTW
modifiedbrowning
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One in the chamber,mag full, safety on behind bedroom door (Winchester 1300 Defender).
No kids, two cats.
No kids, two cats.
HB
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For my sarcastic remark of the day, How about in your hands?
In all seriousness, why would somebody keep a shotgun loaded against the wall! The chances are just too great that it could slip. If the guy is close enough that I don't have time to rack the pump, I'm dead anyway. A mag full and an empty chamber makes the most sense to me at least.
In my experience, most break-ins are 1. crackheads looking to scrape up a few bucks to get high or 2. An opportunistic punk who sees something he likes. While these folks shouldn't be in my house, the best course of action is probably not to sneak around a dark house trying to surprise the guy and shoot him in my living room (lest I have to clean up). A simple "Hey (insert explitive of choice), you ready to die" or "the police are coming" will get these people out of the house/yard. If the guy is there to kill you, you'll know by the door being kick in and a fast entry. There is always the robbery gone bad scenario, so you should treat a break-in as such and hole up if you don't have loved ones in danger. Let's also remember that most break-ins are during the workday.
Or as I once heard a comedian say of his HD plan, "I'm too stupid to own a gun. If somebody ever breaks into my house, I'll just act like I'm breaking in too. When he asks what I'm looking to steal, all I say is 'I can't wait for this guy to get home, then I'll get my rape on'. That oughta scare him away, or I'll hit him with a baby, what kind of sicko hits somebody with a baby".
PS, do you all leave your shotguns sitting out during the day? This could lead to a nasty surprise if you get home and a varmint happened to get home before you
I just reread this and I sound like a 14 year old mall ninja, perfect
HB
In all seriousness, why would somebody keep a shotgun loaded against the wall! The chances are just too great that it could slip. If the guy is close enough that I don't have time to rack the pump, I'm dead anyway. A mag full and an empty chamber makes the most sense to me at least.
In my experience, most break-ins are 1. crackheads looking to scrape up a few bucks to get high or 2. An opportunistic punk who sees something he likes. While these folks shouldn't be in my house, the best course of action is probably not to sneak around a dark house trying to surprise the guy and shoot him in my living room (lest I have to clean up). A simple "Hey (insert explitive of choice), you ready to die" or "the police are coming" will get these people out of the house/yard. If the guy is there to kill you, you'll know by the door being kick in and a fast entry. There is always the robbery gone bad scenario, so you should treat a break-in as such and hole up if you don't have loved ones in danger. Let's also remember that most break-ins are during the workday.
Or as I once heard a comedian say of his HD plan, "I'm too stupid to own a gun. If somebody ever breaks into my house, I'll just act like I'm breaking in too. When he asks what I'm looking to steal, all I say is 'I can't wait for this guy to get home, then I'll get my rape on'. That oughta scare him away, or I'll hit him with a baby, what kind of sicko hits somebody with a baby".
PS, do you all leave your shotguns sitting out during the day? This could lead to a nasty surprise if you get home and a varmint happened to get home before you
I just reread this and I sound like a 14 year old mall ninja, perfect
HB
Magizine loaded chamber empty. The thought of shotgun chamber loaded with the safety off gives me the creeps.
To each their own , but I don't see any real advantage to keeping a shotgun chambered loaded. I do see a real disadvantage to keeping the chamber loaded and relying on the safety - its dangerous. Safe gun handling requires you to excercise muzzle control at all times. It the gun is not in your hands then it had better be unloaded ( at least the chamber ) because it is out of your control.
I realize many will not see it this way, but to me, keeping a shotgun stored in the house chamber loaded is an unnecessarily dangerous practice.
To each their own , but I don't see any real advantage to keeping a shotgun chambered loaded. I do see a real disadvantage to keeping the chamber loaded and relying on the safety - its dangerous. Safe gun handling requires you to excercise muzzle control at all times. It the gun is not in your hands then it had better be unloaded ( at least the chamber ) because it is out of your control.
I realize many will not see it this way, but to me, keeping a shotgun stored in the house chamber loaded is an unnecessarily dangerous practice.
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RevolvingGarbage
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I keep my Pardner Pump with 5 rounds of 00 in the tube, chamber empty safety off.
Making the gun ready by just pumping it is the most simple and safe method of storage for me. If the other members of my family ever need to use the gun, they wont have to fiddle with safety or action release to know if its ready to go. Just pick it up, pump, and aim.
Making the gun ready by just pumping it is the most simple and safe method of storage for me. If the other members of my family ever need to use the gun, they wont have to fiddle with safety or action release to know if its ready to go. Just pick it up, pump, and aim.
So what do you intend to do? Just shoot as soon as you get a clear shot? Without confirming if the dim outline you see in the dark is armed, or your neighbor who came home from the bar and walked in the wrong house?
OP
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fiddleharp
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How 'bout that? Somebody resurrected this old thread. I finally ended up building one of those "hang your shotgun on your bed" contraptions.
I also pulled the trigger on a chambered snap cap and loaded the tube with four #1 bucks, safety catch off.
There, in case of trouble, just shuck out the snap cap, chamber a live round, and it's off to the party!
I also pulled the trigger on a chambered snap cap and loaded the tube with four #1 bucks, safety catch off.
There, in case of trouble, just shuck out the snap cap, chamber a live round, and it's off to the party!
76shuvlinoff
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and how are you sleeping?
870 Full tube slug followed by 00 cruiser ready two steps from bed.
Same for Marlin 1894c with hornady leverevolution
1911 near my pillow, full mag empty chamber.
.357 Blackhawk very near 1911. loaded, hey it's single action.
on reserve elsewhere... single shot legal short barreled 12 gauge....00 and good to go.
All I need are the damn dogs to do their job!
870 Full tube slug followed by 00 cruiser ready two steps from bed.
Same for Marlin 1894c with hornady leverevolution
1911 near my pillow, full mag empty chamber.
.357 Blackhawk very near 1911. loaded, hey it's single action.
on reserve elsewhere... single shot legal short barreled 12 gauge....00 and good to go.
All I need are the damn dogs to do their job!
03Shadowbob
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I have heard of people using big hooks from Lowes or HD and attaching them to the inside wall of their closet above the door. Keep one in the chamber and safety on. Racking one home to scare a BG is amateur.
You laugh but that mount works -- not a scratch on the gun.
40 bones too and they ship it to you. http://www.home-backup-protection.com/index.html
Sir Aardvark
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Rem 870 -
chamber empty
action open
safety on
3 shells of buckshot in magazine (no extension)
I prefer having room in the magazine for 1 more shell so that I can quickly transition from buckshot to a slug if necessary (also available is the less desirable option of doing a "combat reload" through the ejection port). If you have your shotgun completely full of buckshot -ie: magazine full and 1 in the chamber - then you are limiting your options if you suddenly find that you need to load a slug in a hurry.
I do not really worry about "spring set" with full magazines, but I am wary of "mushrooming" of the shotshells from being under pressure for extended periods of time. "Mushroomed" shotshells can cause feeding difficulties because they can possibly wedge themselves against the magazine wall. I make sure that I rotate out my shotshells about every 7 months, or so, just to make things as foolproof as possible.
chamber empty
action open
safety on
3 shells of buckshot in magazine (no extension)
I prefer having room in the magazine for 1 more shell so that I can quickly transition from buckshot to a slug if necessary (also available is the less desirable option of doing a "combat reload" through the ejection port). If you have your shotgun completely full of buckshot -ie: magazine full and 1 in the chamber - then you are limiting your options if you suddenly find that you need to load a slug in a hurry.
I do not really worry about "spring set" with full magazines, but I am wary of "mushrooming" of the shotshells from being under pressure for extended periods of time. "Mushroomed" shotshells can cause feeding difficulties because they can possibly wedge themselves against the magazine wall. I make sure that I rotate out my shotshells about every 7 months, or so, just to make things as foolproof as possible.
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I prefer cruiser ready. action closed, no rd chambered, safety off. If even 4-5 rds won't do the trick, nothing will. It would probably look better from a legal standpoint if you didn't have a fully decked out, chambered, cocked and locked gun, as well. I usually kept my pgo wingmaster with choate extension stocked with 4 in the tube, cruiser ready. (gun was 6+1 capable).
The m500 I'm building I plan to keep 5 ready, next to my bed against the wall. I do not live with small children and if I did I'd probably opt for a pistol instead as it's easier to "hide".
For anyone cruising this thread for recommendations, BAD IDEA. Gun safety is learned by repetition. I don't want someone thinking "cruiser ready" is a good idea when theyre not in that mindset and blowing a chunk out of your tv - or worse. Do what works for you and always assume that sucker's loaded.
The m500 I'm building I plan to keep 5 ready, next to my bed against the wall. I do not live with small children and if I did I'd probably opt for a pistol instead as it's easier to "hide".
For anyone cruising this thread for recommendations, BAD IDEA. Gun safety is learned by repetition. I don't want someone thinking "cruiser ready" is a good idea when theyre not in that mindset and blowing a chunk out of your tv - or worse. Do what works for you and always assume that sucker's loaded.
Tacbandit
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Cruiser ready, for sure.
kiawahman...I hear what your saying about not wanting to shoot someone who doesn't need to be shot...However, you can't make that determination in time to insure your safety, if they're the truly evil type. Racking a slide just to scare someone isn't wisdom...And I'm not pulling the string on a talking doll to scare someone either...If they're in my house in this day and time we live in...hey...it probably ain't the Avon lady making a "late" delivery...Locks, alarms, rottweillers...I've given them enough opportunity to change their mind if they're wanting to do right...No one ever wants to have to
shoot in self defense, or at all...But hey...that's why it's called "self defense".
kiawahman...I hear what your saying about not wanting to shoot someone who doesn't need to be shot...However, you can't make that determination in time to insure your safety, if they're the truly evil type. Racking a slide just to scare someone isn't wisdom...And I'm not pulling the string on a talking doll to scare someone either...If they're in my house in this day and time we live in...hey...it probably ain't the Avon lady making a "late" delivery...Locks, alarms, rottweillers...I've given them enough opportunity to change their mind if they're wanting to do right...No one ever wants to have to
shoot in self defense, or at all...But hey...that's why it's called "self defense".
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