NRA gone too far?
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R.W.Dale
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What are you talking about? Did you read the article in question? The last time I checked the Legislative branch of government was in charge of passing new laws NOT the NRA added before the poll was up
You didn't stay gone long
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=419410
Old Navy
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No, I don't think the NRA has gone too far. Why should I have to get a FFL, a very costly and drawn out process indeed, to sell a gun I no longer want to a neighbor? I don't have the ability to conduct background checks, do you? I am certain that criminals wouldn't abide by this law. We don't need to punish law abiding citizens!
R.W.Dale
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Really?
What's with the recent influx of gun toting liberal newbies to THR? Dis I miss sumpin.
You know what SuperNaut, you completely changed what I said and took away the most relevant part. Anybody who wants to chop off parts of the quote really wants to get out of it what their goal is. If I said "I've never had to shoot a person," you could quote that as "had to shoot a person." But I guess people just want to attack in this forum instead of being reasonable and constructive. what a total waste...
I had said "If people want to see it this way, I guess I am anti second ammendment. If a person wants to carry a gun they need to meet certain criteria and show they're competent. If they want to keep one at home loaded, that's fine. Want to travel around in public with it, then there needs to be a standard of skill. If you cannot consistently get a center of mass shot from 12 yards away on a silhoutte perhaps carrying a gun in public isn't for you."
I had said "If people want to see it this way, I guess I am anti second ammendment. If a person wants to carry a gun they need to meet certain criteria and show they're competent. If they want to keep one at home loaded, that's fine. Want to travel around in public with it, then there needs to be a standard of skill. If you cannot consistently get a center of mass shot from 12 yards away on a silhoutte perhaps carrying a gun in public isn't for you."
My goodness instead of respecting my views people just want to drag stuff I've said from other threads and dump it in here. Worse than some girls I've dated!! How about having some respect instead?? I didn't voice my opinion in this thread just asked a question.
The original statement was:
What is this, flame night on THR? Let's try to remember where we are, folks.
Not saying I agree with zammyman, but quoting someone out of context is dirty pool.
What is this, flame night on THR? Let's try to remember where we are, folks.
I chopped off the "I guess" part, I don't see how that changes the meaning of your statement. Since the 2a is quite clear and you are against what it means, your comment is quite succinct IMO.
So in the interest of fairness here is your full quote:
People can read what you meant for themselves...
So in the interest of fairness here is your full quote:
zammyman said:
People can read what you meant for themselves...
R.W.Dale
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This forum is not unlike any other anywhere on the web for any other hobby. You only get respect from others as long as you deserve it, once you cross the line it's gone forever.
take your own advice
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=419410
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Zam, you posted a link to a "Stop Handgun Violence" article and apparently believe we're supposed to have a serious debate about the contents. And now you're pretending to be upset about the outcome? Uh-huh.
Lone_Gunman
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Don't get too bent over Zammy...
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ZammyMan, did you notice that the article you have a link to is totally biased? It does the exact same thing you just objected about. Just like the fellow that took what you said out of context, the article takes what the NRA rep. stated and only puts forth what they wanted their audience to read. Take a look at it again and you can see that there is an obvious and clear slant to this article.
I think alot of people in hear could or would agree with what you stated about people who tote guns needing some competency when they are issued permits to carry concealed weapons. I certainly would support it, BUT ONLY IF IT OPENED UP THE DOORS TO CARRYING CONCEALED EVERYWHERE WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY PROHIBITED. In other words, schools, Post Offices, stores, etc... The problem with your suggested course of action where people are required to "qualify" with their weapon is that it is an attempt to narrow or minimize the number of people that can carry a firearm. Unfortunatly, criminals care nothing for such laws and so it effectively only disarms law abiding citizens and leaves the bad guys still armed and toting, since they don't need to "qualify" with their firearm.
I think alot of people in hear could or would agree with what you stated about people who tote guns needing some competency when they are issued permits to carry concealed weapons. I certainly would support it, BUT ONLY IF IT OPENED UP THE DOORS TO CARRYING CONCEALED EVERYWHERE WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY PROHIBITED. In other words, schools, Post Offices, stores, etc... The problem with your suggested course of action where people are required to "qualify" with their weapon is that it is an attempt to narrow or minimize the number of people that can carry a firearm. Unfortunatly, criminals care nothing for such laws and so it effectively only disarms law abiding citizens and leaves the bad guys still armed and toting, since they don't need to "qualify" with their firearm.
Dravur
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Oh brother...
Whats next? Has the NRA stopped beating their wives? If you are anti-NRA, or anti 2nd amendment, just say it. At least stand up for what you believe. You may face ridicule and scorn, but stand up for something.
If you want to get cute and do weasel words, then expect to get whacked for that.
Setting the poll so that it comes to a set conclusion isn't a way to make friends or influence people.
Time to ride off into the sunset and join the ranks of Gunkid and that big game hunter dude and disappear.
Whats next? Has the NRA stopped beating their wives? If you are anti-NRA, or anti 2nd amendment, just say it. At least stand up for what you believe. You may face ridicule and scorn, but stand up for something.
If you want to get cute and do weasel words, then expect to get whacked for that.
Setting the poll so that it comes to a set conclusion isn't a way to make friends or influence people.
Time to ride off into the sunset and join the ranks of Gunkid and that big game hunter dude and disappear.
Lone_Gunman
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Hey Zammy,
I apologize for calling you a troll in this thread and one other thread.
I apologize for calling you a troll in this thread and one other thread.
Here is the link to the article that zammyman removed.
Hey Dravur how about you just answer the poll and quick the personal attacks?
It's possible to be pro second amendment and not like the NRA.
I think everyone who doesn't have a dangerous or criminal background should own a firearm. i think everyone who can shoot well and isn't a criminal should have the option of carrying a firearm.
It's possible to be pro second amendment and not like the NRA.
I think everyone who doesn't have a dangerous or criminal background should own a firearm. i think everyone who can shoot well and isn't a criminal should have the option of carrying a firearm.
R.W.Dale
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that's OK his original post is locked in by quotes in post No2
tasco 74
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ther RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR arms shall NOT infringed..............
now is absolutely the wrong time to try and disarm me.........................
now is absolutely the wrong time to try and disarm me.........................
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