Research shows gun shows have no affect

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With closing the 'gun show loophole' on the agenda of the incoming Congress and President, gun owners need to be aware of a recent study from the University of Michigan and University of Maryland that finds gun shows do not affect murder or suicide rates. Arguments based in fact trump those of the anti-gunners based in emotion.

Here is a link to the University of Michagan's press release and there is a link to the actual report. Scientific research papers follow a specific format, if you don't want to read all the statistical gobbilty gook, just read the abstract and the conclusion.
http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=6759
 
And those are probably pretty anti-gun institutions, with Maryland being in maryland, and the university of Michigan being in Ann Arbor.
 
red dirt ranger,

Thanks for the post and link. That will be a valuable tool in countering misinformation.
 
Since when has empirical research ever trumped the strongly held a priori assumptions of anti-gunnuts?

I notice the study looked at impact of gunshow regulations in two states on homicide and suicide within 25 miles of the gun shows within 4 weeks of the gun shows. The study found no impact by California gun show restrictions v Texas gun show regulations. Obviously that just proves that gun shows raise murder and suicide over twenty-five miles from the gun shows and later than 4 weeks after the gun shows.

This is like the claim that passing right-to-carry means your county will have to add a new floor to the morgue or be prepared to stack bodies in the hallway. The "blood in the gutters" never overflowed the streets, but has that frazed the anti-gunnuts? They just don't care. They know "The Truth (TM)" and cannot be swayed by "Mere Facts (R)".
 
Don't Get Excited

As Carl N. Brown sagely observed,
Since when has empirical research ever trumped the strongly held a priori assumptions of anti-gunnuts?
In my experience libs are the ultimate "I know what I know. DON'T confuse me with the facts" folks. What does a mere study by some highly qualified academics mean, anyhow?

And notice how they gave themselves plenty of CYA in the final analysis:
The researchers offered two caveats to their analyses. The study focused on the geographic areas surrounding the gun shows, and would not capture the effect when weapons were transported more than 25 miles away. In addition, the data tracked the effects only up to four weeks after the gun shows, which would exclude later gun-related deaths.
Obviously every criminal who buys a gun at a gun show slyly waits a few weeks until the proper moment to use it to commit a felony. And everybody KNOWS that people routinely drive half-way accross the state to attend a gun show. I mean, why should I go to the Saxet show they have several times a year here in Alamo Town when I can drive 5 hours to Dallas or 3 hours down lovely I10 to Houston? (If you've never driven I10 between San Antonio and Houston, you have missed a real experience. If you don't like to go 80 or better best point your rearviwew mirrors off axis otherwise you are gonna be a nervous wreck by the time you arrive.)

Cy
 
Guys, this isn't General where we pick at the OP's material. If you want to hack on the thing, do it over there.

What is valuable about this study is that the research supports our side. Gunshows don't have a negative impact on suicide/homicide rates. What better information could we want? It is another fact-based argument that an element of our community has no negative impact on the greater population at large. It is a good tool for us to use in the struggle against the lies told by gun-prohibitionists.
 
Absolutely right! While studies like this may not do anything to change the minds of those that oppose us, they can have a positive affect on those folks that haven't made up their mind. Also it paints the anti-crowd into a corner if they don't have a similar study to rebut it. As much as they might like to, and they can't get anywhere trying to slam the U. of M.

Never look a gift horse in the mouth...
 
The researchers offered two caveats to their analyses. The study focused on the geographic areas surrounding the gun shows, and would not capture the effect when weapons were transported more than 25 miles away. In addition, the data tracked the effects only up to four weeks after the gun shows, which would exclude later gun-related deaths.


Four weeks and 25 miles in two statistical sample areas. That's not very good data. I'd like to support the argument, but the data is thin.
 
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