What is going on with ammo????

There is a fundamental difference between some shooters:

Some think 100 rds on hand is sufficient.

Some think that a gun load (6-20 rds) is sufficient, and buying 100 rds for practice later that day works out great.

I have 600 rds of 9mm Blazer Brass and am extremely concerned about it. It used to be 1000, but I shot two major matches with it and have not been able to replenish it yet.

"Sufficient" means different things to different people.

As I clearly stated, hoarders are the ones stashing hundreds, if not thousands of rounds.

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You don't shoot much, do you? A two day defensive pistol class is usually set up for at least 1,000 rounds. A three day class means each shooter should bring 1500 rounds. So far, I've been finding a way. What's your excuse?

This was a fun read but me thinks it will soon be closed.:banghead:

I have been able to find ammo any time I go out. Wal Mart almost always has .357 Magnum, .357 SIG, .40S&W, and .44 Magnum. They have .45 GAP/ACP sometimes and have 9mm from time to time. I generally just go to pawn shops for 9mm ammo... pawn or small gun shops they generally have it for around $13 a box which isn't enough to make me care. I have notices lately the ammo companies seem to be keeping things in stock a little more. I even saw .223 ammo in stock at wal-mart.

Well, I live in the Chicago area, not the dreaded Cook County, but close enough. I've found that Gander, Dick's, Cabela's, the big sporting stores, are very limited to the inventory of ammunition they carry. Plus, the stuff they do have is way, way overpriced.
I buy all my ammo at the range. They sell factory reloads and some new stuff. The brands are quality like Federal, American Eagle, Winchester, Remington, and even some Wolf ammo. The average 9mm Winchester FMJ costs around $15.00 for a box of 50.
As far as hoarding; I try to keep 400 rounds of every caliber, guage I have.

When I shoot at the range, I average 150 rounds per gun I bring.

Talk about shortages? Try finding any dealer that has a AR in stock, they are all gone!

To anyone with over 100 rounds of ANY caliber..STOP BUYING. I'm so sick of people hording hundreds or thousands of rounds of ammunition. BUY ONLY WHAT YOU'LL USE.

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You're joking right?

component hoarding next?

I gave up trying to find ammo, stopped at my mom's house and grabbed all my dad's reloading equipment, (he died 2 years ago and she ain't using any) so I go to reload and notice I have 300 small pistol primers but absolutely no large pistol primers, I check several websites and all primers are on back order tilll July. I remember growing up as a kid I always used my allowance money to buy my dad a brick of primers for Christmas and another for his birthday. A couple thousand rounds a year wasn't alot for him, he was on a couple handgun leagues and then another day/week was spent in practice shooting so yeah I guess 300-500 rounds each week x 52 weeks would be 15,000 to 26,000 rounds per year. Right now I have at least a 1,000 rounds in the house divided between 45 Long Colt, 45acp, 357 mag, 38 spl, 380, 9mm, 32, 25, 22. Man that shelf looks naked! Lost my job last week so it will be hard to shop for ammo now, hate to see the price go up as I am a cheap person anyway. The thing that scares me the most though is the thought that 2 of my guns are registered, that means Obama knows I have them, next year when the gun confiscation and recycling starts I might ony be able to keep 3 hidden, I suppose they will use some retrained drug sniffing dogs and go door to door. Sorry if I have a negative attitude but WI is a gun hating state even though it is a hunter's paradise. An off duty cop was stopped in West Allis a little while ago, he was not from West Allis and he had his side arm on him, they confiscated the gun, searched his car, confiscated a second gun that was locked in a case in the trunk and destroyed both weapons. If they do that to off duty law enforcement officer what rights do average citizens have. The right to keep and bear arms is a thing of the past, our Declaration, and Bill of Rights don't mean anything to our new gov't.

A 100 rds is not a lot to practice with every 2 weeks. I am not a hoarder of ammo I assure you Mr. Brady. Prices has sky-rocketed and I have cut down my practice time to once a month.

Over the past couple of years I've often tried to replace ammo shot at the range 2 to 1. I've got 5 thousand or so rounds total, obviously in the calibers I use. But since it's gotten so difficult to find replacement ammo, I've cut way back on practice since I'm not even close to replacing 1 to 1.

I'm going to look into reloading this weekend. Even though I've never been a fan of picking up my spent brass and I've got too many darn hobbies already..

Argh.

A 100 rds is not a lot to practice with every 2 weeks. I am not a hoarder of ammo I assure you Mr. Brady. Prices has sky-rocketed and I have cut down my practice time to once a month.

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I have been shooting 420 rounds a week. 100 rounds .45acp, 100 rounds .40S&W, 100 rounds 9mm, 20 rounds 7.62x39, 150 rounds .22lr. IN OTHER WORDS, I have shot 2k rounds this month alone.

Statements like this:

As I clearly stated, hoarders are the ones stashing hundreds, if not thousands of rounds.

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are ignorant.

Huh!!! I think I'm gonna go out and buy a .45GAP pistol since there is so much ammo sitting on the shelf! Really now, I'm not snatching the ammo off the shelf. Can't afford it. Anyone here realize they should be cating bullets & loading their own yet? The current going price for 1000 primers is less than a lot of boxes of 50 rounds of ammo for some guns out there......

Actually, what you are is illiterate.

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mrtoren, you're not getting off to a good start here.

Why is it that when I was buying THOUSANDS of rounds per caliber 2 years ago or so, there was plenty of ammo to go around?

I have enough ammo and I'll wait out the crisis. Either demand will fall, or supply will rise. Maybe not as fast as we would like, but it will happen.

Yes Gander's prices are ridiculous right now. I saw a box of 50 9mm 147 gr. Remmy for 49 bucks! Come on now, that's just crazy!

I'm sorry, but I like to shoot. Limiting myself to a hundred rounds...even a thousand of small calibers, would leave me ammoless in a period of weeks....and like you said, theres no more to be had at the moment. I'm not running myself out of ammo becasue someone wasn't inteliigent enough to see this coming. The rising prices across the board got my attention before any ammo shortages did. I bought what I could buy cheaply last fall, when ammo was only starting to get spendy, not impossible to find. Yet, I don't understand the logic of not buying more to insure having some on hand at all times. I'm sorry that there is no ammo out there for some, but does your lack of planning constitute emergency rationing on my part? Do I feel bad spending my money on ammo I know I'll use? Not at all....in fact, I think its dumb not to buy cheap ammo if you need it and come across some. I don't havbe millions of rounds in a warehouse somehwhere, but I have several thousand rounds for my .22lrs (which I shoot more than anything else) and well over the "100 rounds" quota you set for in a few other calibers. Lack of preperation on your part, however, does NOT constitute an emergency on mine. Ever hear of the early bird getting the worm? If you wanted ammo, maybe you should have pondered that possibility last october, or even earlier.

In fact, maybe as a measure of good faith, Obama passed a resolution allowing guns into all national parks today. So he's not the big, bad boogieman everyone initially portrayed him as.

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I find this laughable. Obama signed a credit card reform bill, that consequently included a provsion allowing concealed carry. He in no way drafted it or passed it...he SIGNED it, no more no less. He certainly didn't cahmpion it through or really have the least bit to do with it passing...he wanted credit card reform, and that was merely a tradeoff he had to make. To act as though this was him turning over a new leaf or offering "gunnies" an olive branch is simply funny. His pet credit card reform was in danger of not passing without the provsion, so he may have signed it, but there was ab it opf arm twisting involved I'm sure

I just wasnt to brag... a guy bought the wrong caliber (haha... that happens a lot lately....) so I got 150 rounds of .40 S&W for $30.

I shoot, on an average... not counting .22's about 200 rounds every other weekend... add about 500 rounds of .22's to that.

Leroy

I only shoot about 500 rounds or so of 9mm a year, and maybe about 200 rounds of .223. Managed to snag some 9mm last week at Wally World, guessing I got lucky and got it when a shipment came in. Bought the 6 box limit of the 9 boxes they had, felt lucky since I had none left, and have been searching for the past 3 months or so with no success. Can't believe actual shooters would complain about other shooter buying supplies for their hobby. The biggest complaint should be with the people buying it to try and make a few bucks selling on GunBroker and other sites for sometimes double the price, then add in UPS Ground shipping for a hazardous item. Take a quick look at the number of people selling WWB 9mm or Blazer Brass in the 6 box limits that Wally World sets. What is scary is the number of people paying the ridiculous prices. One auction that really infuriated me was for 300 rounds of WWB 9mm that someone bid $129.99 for and the reserve wasn't met, but could Buy Now for $159. By the time you add shipping in that's about $60 a box.

To anyone with over 100 rounds of ANY caliber..STOP BUYING. I'm so sick of people hording hundreds or thousands of rounds of ammunition. BUY ONLY WHAT YOU'LL USE. I've been searching for 9mm ammo for weeks in the Chicagoland area. Its either completely sold out with no expected shipment dates or double the price.

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Umm. I go shooting at least one a weekly, and generally shoot 200-300 rounds per session. You must never shoot if you think 100 rounds is enough.

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Actually, what you are is illiterate. As I clearly stated, hoarders are the ones stashing hundreds, if not thousands of rounds. Buying more than 100 rounds at a time right now is just selfish..if that makes you feel any better.

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To whom it may concern; a failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part. Your lack of foresight is your problem, not mine. I will continue to buy as much ammo, and components, as I can afford and can find.

Actually, what you are is illiterate. As I clearly stated, hoarders are the ones stashing hundreds, if not thousands of rounds. Buying more than 100 rounds at a time right now is just selfish..if that makes you feel any better.

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I may be a selfish bastard, but I've got plenty of ammo stored. Several thousand rounds of several different calibers.

I shoot a couple 100 rounds each week and buy what I need to do that so I don't cut into my reserve. I haven't had any problem finding ammo at the 7 gunshows I've gone to this year.

Failing to plan is planning to fail, little feller...

Of course the problem we've got today IS real. Only a small percentage of these so called hoarders are doing so out of paranoia...but there are just enough of them. Then you get Rush L types fanning the flames which is not helping. So rational shooters, all 40 million of us are thinking "well I don't know about this political thing or that but I want to keep shooting so I am going to buy a little extra". Then the shelves are even more bare and then it perpetuates.

Here's the deal though...this is America...we're in a recession...there is money to be made honestly. Winchester...put on a third shift of American's and make WWB in .380, 9mm. .40. and .45...you'll make a mint of money without having to raise prices because metals are coming down! S&W has seen its stock go way up over the last 6 months because their sales are so high. There's money to be made in ammo people. Let people hoard...it is money in other Americans' pockets...make enough so that if folks want to buy 5000 rounds at a time...they can.

I mean it's really only "hoarding" if a) you'll never shoot it, or b) you're going to resell it at much higher prices...gouging. No shame in a little honest, decent, reasonable profit-taking...again...this is America.

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll start making so much we can't buy it all and then the price will come down...I get to dream right?

The people that suffer the most from ammo hoarding are new shooters. A few weeks ago I agreed to train a girl from work on the use of a pistol, but alas we could not find any ammo. So, I let her have a box of 50 round blazer brass from my meager stash. However, if ammo was in stock like it was last summer she could have bought more and got much better training.

Ammo hoarding is such an injustice to new shooters. I feel this bubble will burst soon though. People are going to get tired of buying ammo that they are not shooting.

I don't read/post much on here either, but did something MAJOR happen that I missed?

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Yes... you missed something major. Some searches ought to answer your questions. There are many threads.

Years ago...there was s cheesy little "Police Supply" store in downtown Dallas that catered more to security guards than cops. I remember being in there when the owner sold a newly commisioned security guard an RG-38. The guy mentioned that he didn't have any ammo for it, so, the owner sold him 6 rounds out of a partial box he kept behind the counter for customers just like him. I think it was 30 cents a round...

If you don't plan on shooting it, it only requires six rounds, right?

I don't "hoard" ammo. Yet, for years, everytime I saw a good deal on ammo, I bought several times more than I needed. Going to the range, find a good deal on 9mm. Buy four boxes, shoot two, two went into storage. Been doing that for years. For awhile, every time I went shooting, I would replace the rounds fired with new stock. Now, I can't replace what I am shooting and, dipping into the "stockpile". So, if I find a deal on ammo, I'll buy enough to shoot AND replace what I already had stored and have already shot up.

But now, I have an imaginary number in my mind. Say 1000 rounds of 9mm in stock. If I can't find a replacement for the 200 rounds I will shoot this weekend, I won't shoot the 9mm anymore as I do not know when I can replace it at a reasonable cost. Bottom line, I buy as much as I can afford whenever I can, restock any shortages and shoot up the rest. 200-300 rounds in one trip to the range is nothing for me.