What direction will a PG held @ hip level recoil towards

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Ok ive read the PG 101 thing and have a simple question so i dont drop my gun in the dirt.

If im holding my shotgun by the pistol grip and forearm at hip level, not braced against my hip but held in my hands. What direction is it going to go when it recoils?

Im talking a Mossberg 500 with a Knoxx/Blackhawk stock on it. For those of you that arent familiar its a regular stock with a pistol grip protruding below it. Also its the recoil reducing kind so the gun moves a bit up it on firing.

The idea in my brain seeming logical is to hold the pistol grip with my right arm bent at the elbow so the end of my arm is as close to directly in-line with the barrel as possible. Then support and control the front with my left arm on the forearm. This will put the gun slightly above hip level.

Will this result in me dropping the gun in the dirt?
 
so holding my arm directly behind it as locked as i can would be effective?


I try to have some forward push with my forearm grip and also try to take some of the recoil in the pivoting areas of the back arm. I don't like to force the web of my pistol grip hand to take on all of the recoil by itself. This procedure works for me, but YMMV.
 
I have never fired a shotgun with the knoxx stock, so I am unfamiliar with it's recoil impulse...You really need to get out and see what works for you.
I agree with Southern Rebel, though. I always maintain a good forward push on the forearm to control the recoil.
 
As almost all long guns it will recoil to the rear, the muzzle will recoil upward and to the right, if you're right-handed
 
this has a shoulder stock - why not place it in the shoulder and let that part of your body absorb more of the recoil than your wrists?

And yes, as has been mentioned - it will recoil backwards - the equal and opposite reaction stuff applies here.......
 
The reason for not holding it into my hip is that last week i watched my shooting buddy try it with his 20 gauge Remington 870 and he about hurt himself with it. I'm not quite as thick as he is being around 20 lbs less in bodyweight (which matters alot under 120 lbs.) and figure I'd be better off to hold the gun and run the risk of dropping it or getting a minor hand or arm injury than getting a severe bruise on my pelvic bone in the case that im not holding it perfectly.
 
I've fired a shotgun plenty enough held at hip level. It's nothing to worry about. Just hold it at your side and fire it.

Only thing with my gun is that I have an aggressivly textured forend and stock, so it did rub and chafe.

You really should fire it from the shoulder. The stock is there for a reason. Look up the proper stance and such, and remember to lean into the recoil.
 
The recoil will be much less than you fear. I have the Knoxx "Breecher's Grip" on my Mossberg and I could shoot it all day. Here's how I find it works best. Hold it a little above belt level. You right hand will be close to the body. Angle the muzzle of the gun across your body, so that your left hand is a little farther from your body, but not reaching. You will be standing at an angle to the target. Keep your feet apart and lean into the shot a bit.
 
I have this exact setup. I once fired it from the hip out of curiosity. You will not have any trouble at all. Recoil is very mild. No chance of dropping it. Aim is very poor, though.
 
I've shot mine a fair bit for giggles using the elbow locked to an L shape and with the shoulder stock floating with a light pressure between my side and forearm. Just hold it back far enough that the recoil pad is behind the point of contact with your side so it doesn't catch and dig in to the side flesh. If that happens it's worse than a full on nipple twister.... :D

This whole grip is something you really only want to do with target loads or reduced slug or buck. A magnum shell of any sort will make shooting like this quite unpleasant. You'll also want to try to get more of the thick heel of your hand on the back of the pistol grip to take the recoil. If you don't and the web of your hand is taking most of the load then even the light loads will leave your hand sore for the rest of the day after a box or so. I'm not talking about exagerating this by twisting your hand out of proper alignment. Just the regular full contact rear of the pistol grip that you should normally have.

Shooting this way is great fun but if you're more than 3 to 5 yards away you'll be lucky to put any pellets on the man sized target without a bunch of practice.
 
I am a little confused here guys. When firing a full stocked gun from the hip you want to lock the gun to the hip as tightly as you can. This prevents the recoil from twisting your wrist into strange poses. It also helps prevent pain. Maybe the Knoxx/Blackhawk stock is different.

If you are concerned about recoil I would advise starting with lower weight shot before firing buck or slugs.
 
Rshooter the Knoxx stock is a telescoping stock with a pistol grip. Its almost an AR-15 adjustable stock clone, it also has some recoil reduction springs that causes the receiver to slide on it a bit. What I'm talking about is holding onto the pistol grip, like its a PGO shotgun and leaving the stock outside my body frame.

Anyway I took the gun out and shot it off hip level last night like you guys described. I only ran through 3 rounds and managed to hit a silhouette target once from about 20 feet using an open choke, so yeah aim sucks. Anyway the gun jumped on me a little on the first shot and after that it was fine. Its fun but one heck of a waste of ammo.
 
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