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If zero tolerance with knives, has gotten out of hand, it will lead to firearms laws on zero tolerace getting the same treatment.
We need to address this issue everytime it comes up.

http://www.helpzachary.com/

Six years old and looking at 45 days at reform school, because he wanted eat lunch with his coleman spoon/fork/pocket knife.
 
Agreed, but what's the plan here? Just posting about this child's problem isn't enough in and of itself.

Perhaps the first step is to have as many people as possible sign the petition of support for the little guy. Thousands of individuals providing encouragement might help restore his faith in adults. http://www.leeirving.com/gem/SignthePetition.htm

Next might be to contact the administrators and send them this simple phrase, "0 tolerance = 0 responsibility. We need responsible adults running our schools, not those that won't take responsibility!"

Name / Title Address Phone # Email
Dr. Marcia Lyles - Superintendent of Schools for Christina School District and Executive Secretary of the School Board Christina School District
Drew Educational Support Center
600 North Lombard Street
Wilmington, DE 19801 302-552-2630 [email protected]

Dr. Sharon Denney - Supervisor, School Climate and Discipline Christina School District
Drew Educational Support Center
600 North Lombard Street
Wilmington, DE 19801 302-552-2711 [email protected]

Dr. Freeman Williams - Assistant Superintendent, Administrative Services Christina School District
Drew Educational Support Center
600 North Lombard Street
Wilmington, DE 19801 302-552-2667 [email protected]

Mr. George Evans - School Board President 1712 Linden Street
Wilmington, DE 19805 302-658-1922 [email protected]

Mr. David Resler - School Board Vice President 28 Denison Street
Drummond North
Newark, DE 19711 302-737-4884 [email protected]

Ms. Gina Backus - School Board 133 Kane Drive
Newark, DE 19702 302-897-2231 [email protected]

Dr. John Mackenzie - School Board 711 Fiske Lane
Newark, DE 19711 302-453-0859 [email protected]

Mrs. Shirley Saffer - School Board 22 West Kapok Drive
Newark, DE 19702 302-454-8464 [email protected]

Mrs. Elizabeth Scheinberg - School Board 1 Boca Court
Newark, DE 19711 302-494-8076 [email protected]

Mr. John M. Young - School Board 109 Cypress Drive
Newark, DE 19713-2881 219-308-5338 [email protected]
 
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Geno has been all over this. Given my educational and professional background, I have challenged a discussion. I have even offered my professional services in drafting appropriate policy and procedure. I have done so, and have had to administer a public school under "Zero Tolerance". To the point, my calls have not been returned by either the School Board President/Attorney or the Asst. Supt.

For those who do not know Zero Tolerance, the following are the criteria. To Expel under "Zero Tolerance" 3 criteria must be met, 4 if special education:

1) the item must be a genuine weapon (not a picture)

2) the child had to have knowingly brought the genuine weapon

3) the child had to have knowingly brought the genuine weapon, with the intent of committing great harm to a person or school property

4) for special education students (with an IEP) they must understand the law and the consequences of their action.

ALL three of these criteria must be met for all students, as well as criterion four for special education students. If any one of these criteria is not met, "Zero Tolerance" is not met. This is what is known as substantive and procedural due process.

Geno
 
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Might this be the knife/fork/spoon combo he brought?

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http://www.giftwarehouse.com/810a505t.html

I think Crocodile Dundee May have something to say about that.
 
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Good news!

I suspect the kniforkspoon was more like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Deluxe-Chow-Kit...ork-Spoon_W0QQitemZ170306194157QQcmdZViewItem. The knife is what got the kid in trouble.

It appears that the hullabaloo raised in support of young Zachary has turned the tide.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/14/education/14discipline.html

I'm glad - for his sake - that this worked out as it did. I hope the little fellow learned his lesson.

My daughter, in 1st grade, decided she liked Daddy's little red Swiss Army pocket knife (the little one, about 2" long, with a small blade & fingernail file on one side and scissors on the other side). She took it off my desk, dropped it in her backpack (because she didn't have time to run to her room and stash it) and took off to school with Mom. In Mom's classroom, waiting to catch the bus over to her school, she took out a book to read and accidentally dropped the knife. Mom picked it up, thinking it was a fellow teacher's knife. That night I asked if she had seen my knife, because it was RIGHT THERE when I walked by at 6am, but gone at 7am. Putting two and two together, we realized our daughter had stolen my knife and attempted to take it to school.

We're good friends with the principal at the gradeschool, so we set up an appointment with him after explaining the story. He did a great job of explaining the ramifications of bringing a knife to school - even just having it in the backpack.

And, yes, we strongly :fire: addressed the stealing issue at home.

My daughter learned two lessons that day. I hope Zachary learned something from this - and remembers it for the rest of his life.

Q
 
Quoheleth:

It hasn't worked out at all. In fact, the Board, by granting exception and changing policy, has thus admitted that their policies and procedures are flawed. They did not/do not adhere to NCLB and ZT. They have completely ignored due process; due process is precisely the intent of ZT. No, this one is faaaaar from over.

Geno
 
Yet another media update:

Delaware 1st grader has 45-day suspension lifted
October 14, 2009 8:35 AM EDT

BEAR, Del. - A Delaware first-grader who was facing 45 days in an alternative school as punishment for taking his favorite camping utensil to school can return to class after the school board made a hasty change granting him a reprieve.

The seven-member Christina School Board voted unanimously Tuesday to reduce the punishment for kindergartners and first-graders who take weapons to school or commit violent offenses to a suspension ranging from three to five days.

Zachary Christie, 6, had faced 45 days in an alternative school for troublemakers after he took the utensil - a combination folding knife, fork and spoon - to school to eat lunch last month. Now, he could return Wednesday.

"I want to get him back as soon as possible. I want to put this behind him as soon as possible," said Debbie Christie, Zachary's mother. "But I also want him to know that he has a voice, and when things are not right, he can stand up and speak out against them."

A spokeswoman for the school district said more changes to the school system's code of conduct were possible in the coming months.

The punishment given to Zachary was one of several in recent years that have prompted national debate on whether schools have gone too far with zero-tolerance policies.

It was not the first such case in the Christina School District, Delaware's largest with more than 17,000 students, which includes parts of the city of Wilmington and its suburbs. Last year, a fifth-grade girl was ordered expelled after she brought a birthday cake to school and a serrated knife to cut it with.

The expulsion was overturned, and it led to a state law that gave districts more flexibility on punishments. But that law applied only to conduct that triggers expulsions, not suspensions.

School board member John Mackenzie told The Associated Press before the meeting that he was surprised school officials did not use common sense and disregard the policy in Zachary's case. The need for common sense to prevail over the letter of the law was a recurring theme among the boy's supporters and school safety experts.

"When that common sense is missing, it sends a message of inconsistency to students, which actually creates a less safe environment," said Kenneth S. Trump, president of National School Safety and Security Services, a consulting firm. "People have to understand that assessing on a case-by-case basis doesn't automatically equate to being soft or unsafe."

Not everyone believed the school district was out of line.

Jill Kneisley, who runs the special education programs at Jennie Smith Elementary in Newark, said schools need to be vigilant about protecting students. If Zachary or another student had been hurt by the knife, she said, the district would have taken the blame.

"If we can't punish him, then what about kids that did bring (a weapon) for bad things?" Kneisley said. "There's more to the school's side than just us being mean and not taking this child's interests into account."

Several people spoke on Zachary's behalf, including some who said other students had been unjustly punished.

Dodi Hebert said her 13-year-old son, Kyle, was tormented throughout last year by a group of bullies who ultimately planted a knife on him. Kyle was ordered into the alternative school, but Hebert refused to send him there and home-schools him instead.

"You can't kick kids out of school for the kinds of things that are happening," Connie Merlet told the board. "This is a horrible thing to happen to our district, to be on the national news because you guys weren't paying attention."

(This version CORRECTS that the statements made on the school's need to protect students were made by special education teacher Jill Kneisley, not Jennifer Jankowski.)

http://my.earthlink.net/article/us?guid=20091014/4ad55ad0_3421_13345200910141061455587

Obviously they still aren't getting the message.

Quoheleth:

The problem with both Zachary and your daughter is that they are too young to understand what constitutes a "weapon," and that some folks in the education field are absolutely brain-dead. Zachary thought his untensil was for eating food (which it is) so he thought of it in that context, not as a weapon. Your daughter was attracted to your knife, and again didn't think of it as a weapon. Reasonable adults cannot expect children of they're age to be mature enough to understand these things. Unfortunately adult educators are not always mature enough to understand the difference either. Do you think your little penknife in terms as a weapon? No? Then why should your daughter?

When these incidents come up, zero-tolerance advocates say that age, maturity, and intent make no difference. A 6 year-old should be judged on the same basis as a 16 year-old. That is absolutely stupid!
 
It's hard to comprehend how educators hope to instill the ability to reason into our kids when they seem to have forfeited their own ability to do so. I suspect it has a lot to do with the need to suck up to the source of funding.

For sheer unbending fierce determination to preserve freedom of thought, my hat goes off to librarians, who have a splendid record of opposing censorship by the miniscule of mind.
 
The problem with both Zachary and your daughter is that they are too young to understand what constitutes a "weapon," and that some folks in the education field are absolutely brain-dead. Zachary thought his untensil was for eating food (which it is) so he thought of it in that context, not as a weapon. Your daughter was attracted to your knife, and again didn't think of it as a weapon. Reasonable adults cannot expect children of they're age to be mature enough to understand these things. Unfortunately adult educators are not always mature enough to understand the difference either. Do you think your little penknife in terms as a weapon? No? Then why should your daughter?

Right; this is the case of a kid doing a kid's thing but being judged according to the strictest letter of the law. My wife is in education (6th grade teacher). Even she doesn't understand why some of these rules are so concreted in black & white that there is no flexibility. Yet, if a teacher makes a judgement call, the same administrators who hold to The Letter of The Law in one instance are the first to roll over and pacify the parents.

I'm apologize for the misunderstanding I had in the case (above).

Q
 
hopping:

There have been kids expelled for "finger-guns". Seriously!

Geno
 
'm glad - for his sake - that this worked out as it did. I hope the little fellow learned his lesson.

What he has learned from this is that adults are dishonest.

They talk of zero tolerance, but they do not act on it. They remove the punishment for the crime but will not admit that he did nothing wrong.

If the school board truly believes in zero tolerance they should have kept the 45 day suspension. If they admit (which they did) that incidents like this should have some level of discretion left to the local authorities then they should have removed the "zero tolerance" policy completely.

All the boy has learned here is that people are cowards.
 
Here's an angle to bring up when making a call or writing a letter.

#1 kids don't see the nefarious angle in a lot of everyday items...and neither do a lot of adults.

#2 Kids see a knife-fork-spoon combo as an eating impliment. Adults have been trained to see knives as potential weapons.

#3 In zero tolerance, there is no room for 'differing views' on what can potentially be used for violence.

#4 ask a prison guard what mudane items he would disallow a violent inmate from accessing. Such a guard would agree with you that the knife-fork-spoon combo could be used as a weapon...but he'd also cite a drumstick, an overly heavy belt-buckle, a pair of drumsticks, and numerous other everyday items as weapons.

#5 Obivously, if the school administration is turning a blind eye to those potential weapons, then they are NOT implmenting zero tolerance. The policy MUST be enforced equally for all students. This means ALL incidents of supposed weapons must either take into account the actor's view of the item (which means to a 6 year old, those are food-tools, not weapons) or the school must truely adhere to zero tolerance for all potential weapons, not just dull knives, but pencils, belts, sports equipment, etc.
 
Bottom line....

You can make all the laws you want...

You can take away or restrict all the 'potential' weapons you want....

You can inflict your twisted, uneducated opinion of how the world 'should' be...

You can throw all the guns and knives in the ocean....

You can set around and believe that since you have ridden the world of all the horrid, 'killing' devices that mankind will skip off into the sunset holding hands and live in peace for ever and ever....

BUT, until you convince man to stop killing each other....well, all the above is just a bad dream!

Throw God out of everything and look what is happening!

Throw the pledge of allegiance out and look what is happening...

It's going to take something other than burrying all the 'dangerous' weapons to quill this tide that is threatening to destroy this great nation!

Hey... if little Johnny wants to off his schoolmate and all the dangerous weapons are at the bottom of the ocean...he'll find a way to do it!
 
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