What should I carry opening day? Take this Poll & help me decide!

If you could take only one for opening day---

  • Recent Win 94 AE .30-30, Vintage Weaver K-4 Scope

    Votes: 27 31.8%
  • 1974 Win 94 TE .30-30, Open Sights

    Votes: 17 20.0%
  • .270 Model 70, 4X14 Leupold

    Votes: 33 38.8%
  • 7mm RM Model 70, 3X9 Leupold

    Votes: 8 9.4%

  • Total voters
    85
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I have a ground blind a lasered 86 yrds from the feeder. Game cam shows decent prospects w/ a nice 2 to 3 year old 10 pointer, and LOTS of ferel hogs. I have mostly hunted with either a .270 model 70, leupold VIII 4X14 AO or a 7mm RM model 70, leupold VII 3X9. I have taken dozens of deer with each, and am very comfortable with either.

In the last 3 seasons, I have taken some game with an older model 94 .30-30, and I am really digging this "back to basics" thing.

So here it is, crunch time. Now that I have invested considerable cash for the first time in my own lease, I am torn between having the best weapon vs. the most enjoyable, reasonable challenge. I have a newer model 94 w/ a vintage weaver K-4 that I am really enjoying shooting. I just dig it.

Should I go with the proven deer sniper rigs, or stay with one of the 94's?
 
By deer lease, in Texas that means baited deer, is it also fenced? Whatever you think is fun. Too bad there isn't much public hunting there.
 
Go with what you think is the most fun right now. I assume you're leaving the hogs alone for the most part for now. Still, your new 30-30 should be enough gun with the right placement.
 
I would choose the TE 30-30 just because it has open sights. I prefer using my 94 when hunting less than 100 yds, bad deer medicine and have used it on elk.
 
in Texas that means baited deer, is it also fenced? Whatever you think is fun.

OK, I am willing to ackowledge that we Texas "baiters" are more harvestors than hunters. However; many of us myself included, position in such a way as to have multiple shooting lanes at various distances. Most game approaches my feeder from a draw 90 yards behind it. If hogs are present, the deer rarely come any closer in so that will be the shot; 170 or so yards.

To shoot inside the pin, I will have to shoot through the 4" fence. I have placed targets in the pin to see it I could avoid the fence; Nope. Hit it 1 out of 4 shots, so that option is out. I have to get them coming or going.

As for thinking this is fun, well, yes. Camping is fun. Solitude is fun. Scoping a lot of game is fun. Seeing something you didn't expect & getting nervous at the shot is fun.

I have hunted mule deer and big-horn sheep in the mountains of southern new Mexico, and it was great. I have walked and driven all over newly high fenced property to cull off all domestic whitetail. No feeders. lots of fun. I do not notice a difference in the rush when seeing a really impressive trophy approaching from a distance; feeder or otherwise.

The only part of this game that you and I will agree on is this; I do not like the feeling of having to out-feed, out protect, frankly out-hide my hunting "station" from other guns on the lease. It is easy to become very territorial of ones individual efforts to attract game, and that does take some of the fun out of it.

For example--The best deer I have seen is a nice 10 pointer, but it is likely shy of 3 years and could be an even better deer next year. NO WAY will any of the other 5 guys on this lease let that animal walk to grow another year, so I will be taking it if I see it.
 
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Go with one of the 30-30s, it's all the gun you need at that range. As for which one, that should depend on your judgment of your abilities with irons, and one how early/late the critters show up.
The biggest disadvantage I've found with iron sights is that it can be light enough to legally shoot, and light enough to see the animal-but too dark to see the sights...
 
Winchester M70 270...tough to beat. Especially if your taking 200yd+ shots.
 
Winchester M70 270...tough to beat. Especially if your taking 200yd+ shots.
 
Voted the 1st one on the list, but really whichever one you're most accurate with from that particular position.

Think I'll go ahead and run initially this year on opening day (Nov 21) with the new T/C Icon in .243 Win. But may change my mind. Gonna sight in 3 rifles, then choose.
 
Think I'll go ahead and run initially this year on opening day (Nov 21) with the new T/C Icon in .243 Win. But may change my mind.

Forgot to put that on the list; not your T/C, but I do have an H&R .243 w/ a new Nikon 3X9 that is in the mix as well. I have decided to take the scoped .30-30 for opening weekend; but the .270 will be back-up if I drop it. I'll post pics of whatever these aging eyes are able to take down--
 
I have a ground blind a lasered 86 yrds from the feeder.

At that range the only one that presents any handicap would be the open sighted 30/30, and with good light, that wouldn't be much of a handicap IMHO. But I voted Scoped 30/30 for the advantage that a scope gives you early and late. The .270 would have been my first choice if it wasn't so overscoped, I just dont like an adjustable objective on a deer hunting rifle. But then, thats just me.
 
I just dont like an adjustable objective on a deer hunting rifle. But then, thats just me.

It was a "gift" from a landowner / trophy breeder after I shot two of his breeder stock in low light. He required that I have it mounted before returning, unless writing him a $1500.00 check for the next "accident" was something I wanted to do.
 
Sounds like .30-30 will be more'n enough. I picked the one with the optics. My eyes are old, don't know about yours. :D I still shoot irons pretty well, but given the choice I'll go with an optic. Gives you a few more minutes of shooting time at dawn and dusk if nothing else.
 
I voted for the .270 win. I don't own one yet, but for whitetails, it's hard to beat. Also, if you're going to be taking the 170 yard shot you mentioned, I would feel more comfortable with the .270. I know the .30-30 will kill them at that range, I've seen it done, I would just personally feel better with a little more powerful round past 150 yds. Just my opinion.
 
go with the 30-30 - plenty of gun, classy, and deer just taste better when shot by a 30-30 lever... .
 
I have a newer model 94 w/ a vintage weaver K-4 that I am really enjoying shooting. I just dig it.

That is a great reason as far as I am concerned. You like it, you're comfortable with it; go with the 30-30.
 
It was a "gift" from a landowner / trophy breeder after I shot two of his breeder stock in low light. He required that I have it mounted before returning

:D (LOL) You were lucky to have been invited back and not "Hung" (LOL) :D
 
and I detest a scope on a levergun....

Yes, I am aware; as we have debated that in other threads. Given the massive, cheap scopes & ridiculously high see-through rings typically used, I actually agree with you. It's why I have two 94's; one with & one without.

The scope used is hopefully the least offensive option I could find; a 40+ year old K-4 with blue steel tube that matches the blue on the gun exactly.
 

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Scopes on a levergun or any gun ==> Good
See-through rings on ANY gun ==> Bad

Scopes or other sights should be as LOW as possible on a close-range hunting gun, whether it's a .22, muzzleloader, or a .30-30.

Also, don't hunt right at the feeder - get away from it at least 75-100 yards or so in one direction or another, so that the game doesn't associate feeder=hunter.
 
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