.50 BMG whopper (?) i just heard,,,

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old skydiver buddy of mine,,,

called 'em "bouncers"

cause they did,,,

:eek:

now,,,why anyone would jump out of a perfectly good airplane,,,

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Other BIG ONES I have heard:

"If a (then new) M16 hits you in the little finger, it will rip your hand off"

"Any hit from a .45 will stop them"

"The .45 is effective because the bullet is tumbleing end over end when you shoot it."

and the beat goes on....
 
These stories just prove that not even Army instructors know squat about firearms. Their sum total of their knowledge is the BS they've been fed over their whole careers.
Then again, when the instructor, or at least senior instructor, is an E7 with for example a 101st Airborne Division combat patch, the Combat Infantryman's Badge, and maybe a Silver Star for bravery, the fact that the man who is instructing spent two or three years of his life keeping alive in combat, accomplishing the mission and bringing his soldiers home does tend to lend some credibility to what he is telling you about the weapon system at hand.

The biggest lie I ever heard in four years in the Army wouldn't even move the meter compared to some of the things spouted as gospel truth on these forums.
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Lancel, the reason people jump out of perfectly good airplanes is that there is no such thing. But getting out of a helicopter is almost always a good idea, for as they say in Air Cav, "Helicopters don't fly - they beat the air into submission."
 
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Don't know why some folks disparage "jumping out of perfectly good aircraft". There are worse ways to travel, my hats off to those brave souls in WWII that arrived at the battlefield in a crash-landed glider.

That brings us back on topic of a near miss causing a wound: I can see how a jet aircraft breaking the sound barrier may have given rise to the idea. Don't know how big a bullet needs to be to cause damage that way. I just feel that if someone is shooting F-16s at me, I'm definitely outgunned.

Larry
 
lancel said,,,

"my hats off to those brave souls in WWII that arrived at the battlefield in a crash-landed glider."


mine too,,,

my hat's off to all you folks past and present who've had to endure the rigors of combat,,,in all its many forms...

i was a lucky swabbie who may have gotten aimed at a few times that i know about (and a few that i don't) but never actually fired at...

m

and you .50 owners better quit shootin' down them satellites!!

:D

addendum,,,

i'm taking the big computer down and off the net for a while

which means i'll be relegated to the slow computer and the (shudder) dial up

and this is ALL due to the wonderful SBC/YAHOO "upgrade" BTW

so if i aint around for a few days, you know why

later

m
 
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From http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?threadid=11039:
Violence Policy Center Claims .50 Caliber Rifles Can Shoot Down Satellites

The Violence Policy Center (VPC) released another new report calling for strict regulation on the .50 caliber rifle. The VPC's new report, "Hotter Than a Heat-Seeker, More Devastating Than a Death Ray", claims that .50 caliber rifles can shoot down U2 spy planes, damage military satellites, and may have played a role in the recent unexplained crash of the space shuttle Columbia.

"These are extremist weapons of nigh-inexplicable power," explained the VPC senior analyst Tom Diaz. "We've fabricated - er - found evidence that this extremist super-weapon, which is shockingly under-regulated, may have fallen into extremist terrorist hands and played a role in the tragic Cold War downing of U2 pilot Gary Powers. These extremist rifles can swat aircraft from the sky just like hunting birds, and pose a great risk for our unprotected International Space Station."

"Look, I'm really quite at a loss for how to deal with these ridiculous claims," began exasperated Fifty Caliber Rifle Association spokesman Johann Brett. "You cannot shoot down a large airplane, let alone a satellite, with any caliber rifle. In World War II, fighters equipped with many heavy machine guns and cannons put hundreds of rounds of incendiary ammunition into slow-flying bombers and they often still survived. No one has ever been killed by a criminal with a .50 caliber rifle. They cost thousands of dollars and weigh more than two bowling balls, but in the end they're just rifles, not super-weapons. And anyway you don't hunt birds with a rifle, you need a shotgun."

Diaz dismissed Brett's response as biased gun lobby propaganda. "These gun industry extremists have long hidden the truth about the extremist weapon's power," he insisted. "For example, there are indications that the asteroid belt was produced by a stray .50 caliber round from a gun extremist's rifle impacting on what was previously a perfectly bucolic and peaceful world. And we suspect that the planet Alderaan, Princess Leia's homeworld, disintegrated under the extremist wrath of an extremist's extreme .50 caliber bullet."

For his part, Brett described the VPC's claims as "lunacy". "The asteroid belt was not caused by the .50 caliber rifle," he insisted. "It took a moon-sized Death Star to destroy Alderaan, and anyway that was a movie, not real life."

"I can't understand why the press considers this constant stream of fantastic,concocted reports credible and prints them," Brett fired back. "The VPC is an anti-gun organization with a million-dollar annual budget from the Joyce Foundation, no actual academic researchers, and a tiny staff of propagandists. Why do you print this insanity?"

"Extremist extremist extremist extremist gun lobby extremist," countered Diaz. "Anyway, the New York Times prints anything we write, so it'll get printed." Diaz noted that the VPC has sponsored new bills to ban the .50 caliber rifle in numerous states. "This threat to public safety cannot go unchecked," Diaz asserted. "The .50 caliber rifle must be banned to reduce crime, or fight terrorism, or, you know, whatever."

Legislative battles involving the .50 caliber rifle are expected to continue throughout the next coming years.

from the Simon Jester project - bringing levity to the insanity!
 
a .50 bmg round passing within 6 to 7 inches of you causes a vacuum effect in the air that will wound you


It would be great if it worked like that. EOD uses the M82A1 for munitions disruption. If this was true itd make our job one hell of a lot easier. :D
 
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