Highly biased wording in AOL poll on National Park Carry

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Please take a moment to participate in the AOL poll on National Park Carry.

The article and wording are very biased and spin the reader towards the conclusion that park carry is somehow bad and makes the fact that it only allows citizens with a valid carry permit to carry.

aolnews.com/nation/article/gun-toting-visitors-heading-to-national-parks/19353107 (the absence of the link is intentional)
 
Voted.

News, my a.. That should go in the editorials, not news. I'm dizzy after reading the first half of the article, the author is putting so much spin on things.
 
Voted.

"They've always been a sanctuary where people can go and feel safe."

Being in the middle of nowhere, alone, with no protection of any kind isn't exactly my idea of "safe"...
I mean granted it's not like there are highwaymen lurking behind every boulder, but still...
 
The numbers have improved by 10 percent compared to this morning, so that's almost a 20-point swing. Smart move by hso - this way they won't see a lot of traffic originating here and it won't look like they're getting smurfed.

Dangers in national parks include killers looking for prey (more common in state parks), bears, and illegal "farming" operations. When most of us were children, I think that they were much safer.
 
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Sanctuary...where people can feel safe?

What kind of moron comes up with crap like that? Maybe the idiot writer should give this article to the grizzlies in the parks.
 
I drive from a state where I have a valid carry permit into a National Park. Without carry reciprocity in the park I have to stop outside the park and remove my gun and put it in an inaccessible part of the vehicle. I then drive in the park and leave my vehicle for hours with no way to control that weapon.

I'm not afraid of what I'll encounter in the park, I'm afraid that someone may break into my vehicle and take my gun. If it's on me, it's in my control. If it isn't, it's subject to any random theft.
 
I recently saw an interview where someone pointed out that every "Mass Shooting" in the last 20 years occurred in a gun free zone............Doesn't sound like a sanctuary where people can go and feel safe to me, but that's just me.


You can treat crazy, but you can't fix stupid.
 
"It was a zone dedicated to the preservation of nature," Brinkley told AOL News. "In the same way that you don't carry a gun to an airport, there are places where you don't carry a gun in this country, and a national park is one."

Dumbest part of the whole article. There's a huge difference between the airport and a national park: the airport has security. Gun free zones only work when you enforce them. That means armed guards, metal detectors, and searches at the perimeter to secure the area inside.

If you just put up a sign or make a rule that says no guns, you're only inviting criminals in ultimately. If just putting up a sign or making a rule magically fixed things, then we'd have signs all over the country that say "Crime Free Zone" and we'd have rules against things like homicide, rape, assault, armed robbery, etc. Oh wait ...
 
But he does expect the first few months under the new rule to bring "people who want to express their Second Amendment right to bear arms" and plenty of macho photo ops by park entrance signs.
Park Service spokesman David Barna clearly has no understanding of the mindset of Concealed Carry.

" . . . . guns could be carried inside those facilities, including dormitories where young, seasonal employees stay."
Kind of like those college dormitories, they are completely safe.

Oh wait . . . . .
 
Park Service spokesman David Barna clearly has no understanding of the mindset of Concealed Carry.

Overall I agree with that statement. However, there is a decent number of people who carry open to make a statement when it is not needed. Already, there are plans to open carry in many NPs next week. Why? Just to make a point.

If someone is located in a state where open carry is the only legal way to carry a weapon, then carrying a weapon that way is understandable. However, in a state where concealed carry permits are issued, and if a person has a concealed weapons permit, why open carry on the first day this law is effective into a NP. To make a point, to fulfill a dream, I'm not sure.

However, there are groups who are actively working to get this policy reversed. There are senators and house members who are actively working to get this law reversed. We have a president who will sign a bill to reverse this law, so why push the issue.

By carrying concealed, you bring no note to the fact that you are carrying a weapon and you are still able to protect yourself and your family. By carrying open, you are giving fuel to people who make statements like the Ranger, you are giving fuel to the people who visit, who don't like the idea of handguns in the park, and these are the people who will tell their Congress person they don't like this law.

Just my 0.2 and I'm sure my statements are peeing off some people right now. So, let the flames begin....:D
 
Voted, thanks for the heads up. I especially like the part about expecting gun owners wanting to display their 2nd amendment rights to be posing for macho pictures at entrance signs. They really believe we are all that stupid.
 
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What do you think of the new rule allowing guns in national parks?
It's a good idea 58%
It's a bad idea 40%
Not sure 2%

Even if few park visitors flaunt their firearms, knowing the person next to your family at an evening campfire or on a ranger-led hike might have a gun will have a chilling effect, critics say.

It will have a chilling effect on criminals. Some would even call it a deterrent.
 
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"In the same way that you don't carry a gun to an airport, there are places where you don't carry a gun in this country, and a national park is one."

If he only knew. It's perfectly lawful to carry a gun in an airport, I do any time I'm there picking up or dropping off.
 
I just wanted to point out that when I was a kid we took a trip to Zion National Park where some pedophile dropped his pants and wiggled his wanky at my sister and her friend. So much for a sanctuary. She gave a perfect description to a park ranger after we got off the trail but they never found him. I doubt they even looked for him as all the park rangers were small unarmed women. Perfect place to commit a crime if you ask me.
 
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