In 338 Lapua, Anything Better than TRG 42?

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One of the .338LM's original loadings was with a 250grn. bullet @ 2100fps or so.(just short of the original goal of the 8.58x71 parent cartridge.)

I was under the impression that the 338 Lapua pushed a 250 gr up to about 2900 fps out of a 26" barrel. Can a 300 Win. Mag. get a 250 gr bullet up to 2900 fps?

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I run a 250gr Scenar or Match King at 2950FPS in my TRG. I have never heard of an 338LM load with a 2100fps with a 250gr. The 300 Win mag is a great cartridge but isnt no 338LM and doesnt claim to be. About the heaviest 30 cal target bullet is the 240gr SMK which would be viable in the win mag but would benifit great alot from a fast twist and a long throat.

Yes indeed the new .300WMs are about 200fps SLOWER than I had put down earlier...I apologise for not having all the info on these...will update as I can in this post.

Standard .300WM COAL=3.340"
Mark 248 Mod 0,aka A191...190grn.SMK COAL=3.50"
Mark 248 Mod 1...220grn.SMK COAL=3.50" @ 2900fps.

.338 Lapua Magnum...250grn. COAL=3.60 @2900fps.

I know this post is old, but here is a heads-up comparison of the AI-AWSM vs. the TRG-42.


article | Military .338 Lapua Magnum Rifles: the Sako TRG-42 and the AI-AWSM

for a lot less dough you can still get the remmy 700's in 338LM http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=157717761

don't know that it's better, per se, but it sure is a lot cheaper!

You might consider these guys... I've seen their stuff and it's impressive.

http://www.deserttacticalarms.com/

If you want to buy American, you may consider waiting for the new Savage 110 BA in 338 LM. 9 twist. About 2 grand. More info on their website.

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The March issue of American Rifleman has the Savage 110 BA on it's cover.
The article's shooting results show sub-MOA accuracy at 300 yards with a couple of different brands of factory .338.

Welding Rod said:

So I want a 338 Lapua. Since the new 1:10 twist barrel was announced, the TRG 42 has my eye. So does the Barrett 98B but it is a ghost at this point, at least according to my dealer.

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I spent some time handling the Barrett 98B at the SHOT show and was very impressed with it. I would have liked to have put some rounds through it too but that wasn't going to happen. The 98B is available right now at Impact Guns for around $4,500. I'd like to see Zak do a comparison between the 98B and the AI AWSM. The AWSM is about $1,500 more so you could put that towards a PRH, S&B, Nightforce, US Optics etc. The 98B magazines are cheaper too and hold ten rounds rather than the AI's five. The AWSM is heavier too .... maybe 1-1/2lb heavier.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/barrett_98b.html

I haven't shot one of those yet, but I have a friend that has. Barrett is sponsoring our Steel Safari this year so I think we'll get some trigger time then. There will be a lot of interesting products coming out of the PSR bids, I think.

.338 LM vs .338 RUM

I got my American Rifleman and read the article on the new Savage.Interesting ,but I'm not sure if I would step up for the .338LM,due to the cost in ammo over the RUM;the ballistics seem pretty close.
I know of someone in MT that had a tight neck 340WM because He said Brass is better. I do know that in my hunting wt stainless synthetic,RECOIL is considerable,but the recoil pad changed to Limbsaver helped a lot.
If you don't require the max, 85 gr H4831 w/250gk in .338RUM is accurate,and an honest 2700fps.
I won't put down the LM,it's proven;and I have Remmington and Savage arms.

The .338RUM is ballistically equivalent to the .338LM. I shot a Remington-based .338RUM for a few months. Although I started low, my RUM loads were identical to my LM loads.

Did you get the chance to look at the new AI AX?

I've seen it. Without taking one apart, it looks to me to be substantially similar to the AI-AWSM (including the action) but with the addition of a forward rail system, changes to the fore-end under the barrel, and some changes to the rear stock. I speculate that the rear stocks skins might fit an old AW/AWSM but obviously I haven't tried it.

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The Barrett 98b is in stores; there are a couple in the DC area that have them. I have not fired one but did get to examine one in a shop. I was impressed by the ergonomics and the ease of dis-assembly - it really reminds me of an AR converted to bolt-action.

I've seen it. Without taking one apart, it looks to me to be substantially similar to the AI-AWSM (including the action) but with the addition of a forward rail system, changes to the fore-end under the barrel, and some changes to the rear stock. I speculate that the rear stocks skins might fit an old AW/AWSM but obviously I haven't tried it.

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That sums it up pretty well... Same barrel, same action, but new rail system, new fore-end, and a near rear. The skins don't interchange though; they did add a replaceable pistol grip design to accomodate different hand sizes. Basically an upgraded form of the AW...

How do you know specifically the rear skins will not fit?

Have you seen an AW with the skins off?

How do you know specifically the rear skins will not fit?

Have you seen an AW with the skins off?

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Many times.

The AX uses a different rear half, or at least the current prototypes do (to the best of my knowledge). The design isn't totally finalized, so it's too soon to say so for certain.

Consider:



Compared to:



Overall shape is different, cheekpiece positioning is slightly further back, and the buttspike is located lower and further to the rear.

I just wish the magazine cutout were located on the right side of receiver for lefties...

On that AX, is the rear covered in a skin set like the AW, or is it constructed a different way?

I see what look like the AW skin "grommet" on the AX photo in positions that look the same as on the AW.

Check out American Rifleman this month. They have a Savage 110 on the cover.
Price is about $2300.

On that AX, is the rear covered in a skin set like the AW, or is it constructed a different way?

I see what look like the AW skin "grommet" on the AX photo in positions that look the same as on the AW.

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I believe it's a skin set like the AW, but thus far the models I've seen/handled were all made with rapid prototyping polymer skins.

Here's mine, a PGWDTI Timberwolf.



www.pgwdti.com