Don't buy a CheyTac product!

I'd have to have this kind of thing verified before I got all worked up over it.

Of course even then for me to say I'm boycotting CheyTac for this would be like me saying I'm going to boycott Ferrari because Enzo said something I didn't like ... its not like I'm in that market in the first place.

That said, if its true it makes me a little sad ... most of the worlds problems are caused by the elitist attitude that the common man isn't smart enough or good enough for this or that. Its the base belief system of progressives (right and left).

How many folks here can truly use the rifle to its fullest potential??, not to be a butthead, but lets get real other to say, Hey I own a Chey-Tac, JMHO.

Ron

I'd have to have this kind of thing verified

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It's been on their website and a rep confirmed this on Arfcom.

Makes me wanna buy a Barret....

Ladies and Gentlemen there is always a better way to skin a cat

i give you this
http://02bfe1c.netsolhost.com/products/m408.htm

the original manufacturer of the rifles for cheytac and EDM doesnt limit anything

oh and did i mention the rifle is cheaper through them?

you dont get all the "fancy sniper kit" but you will get a better rifle than cheytac is offering

This is bs. I've seen a M200 (all black) with a range ballistic computer mounted on the top of the scope. The thing wasn't nothin like a watered down rifle. It was a beast. I would take the M200 over the M82A1 any day of my life!!

for everyone who thinks this rifle looks ' badass ', do you play a lot of video games? be honest!

I dont see it.

How do you "water down" a gun? Make it less accurate? If that's the case how do they justify 14000 dollars for an inaccurate gun? The most accurate gun I ever owned and shot is my savage 12fv. It cost me 431 dollars after taxes, with a scope on it as well and new!! I've made more than one one-hole groups with it, which tells me that there is more at play than cost. I'll be damned if I pay 14 grand for a purposely made-inaccurate gun.

Chey-Tac = HK

How are they "neutering" these CIV rifles anyway?

Anything they do to take away long rang accuracy can be remedied by a gunsmith.

Ummmm..it's $14,000, enough money to get a .50 cal and ammo for life, or a nice full-auto. In adition, where are you going to find a 3,000 meter range? No big deal, IMHO

14k and I'm lookin at cars and motorcycles---not rifles--sheeesh

Plus wouldn't buy their stuff cause of the stupid name---shallow I know.

Where is this information on their website? I have seen M200s before on sale to civilians

Chey-Tac = HK

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Not really,

Where is this information on their website?

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They pulled it after some people called them on it,

To all these people saying the point is moot (due to the high cost of the product and limited market), the point is the principle. Without principle, the 2nd Amendment is dead.

All the statements about whether the common man can afford the gun or not don't matter as much as the point that they won't sell if we could.
The respect Barrett gained is in the fact that he stood up and said if the common man can't have it than niether can you elitists in the government.
If CheyTac indeed has a prohibition then screw em, if they don't then let em speak with their support for RKBA like Barrett.

What a waste of a thread...that's been on their site for a long time.

The Barretts are not known for their accuracy, so buy one if you have the cash and you need to say you own a Barrett.

This is even worse, where a private company is discriminating against citizens / civilians

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Can you imagine a gun company that's willing to do that??? *cough*H&K*cough*colt*cough*

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Remember for years, Remington said that their 700 PSS rifles were manufactured for LE/military only, but that didn't stop dealers from selling them to everyone anyway.

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I wanna buy one then, or at least one that LOOKS like it, even if they have taken the crown slightly out of round.
Al

im not so sure the gun itself is the nautered product i believe its the ammo (that was only available through cheytac idk anymore) and the reloading data reflected that as well again was only available through cheytac

as far as the price you guys didnt even notice my link to EDM they were partnered with cheytac to develop and produce the M200 and you can get the M200 from cheytac for less than 14000 what your seeing is the "Kit" price you have to contact them to get just a rifle but... EDM makes a .408 rifle for less and will even add the militarized features like the carry handle and bipod etc for just a little more (still under cheytacs price)

the 14000 gets you:
the rifle
a ballistic software program and handheld untit called the CABC (civilian automatic ballistic computer) PDA
SUPRESSOR (thats a big part of the cost right there not to mention the extra fees for transfer)
a kestral windmeter
Nightforce Scope
Rings
Vector IV laser rangefinder linked to the PDA
and ammo

the gun isnt worth that price but your not factoring in the KIT

i personaly would prefer an EDM windrunner in both .408 and .50 over cheytac

and yes the M200 is available to civilians

Other companies offer the 375/408 CT chamber. If you can afford a $10k + rifle...I'm sure you could pay a great smith to barrel your CT with a 32" barrel from a well known barrel maker...IE Obermeyer, Bartlein...etc etc.

well if their ammo is neutered, that's a good thing. My experience with the things is that the bolts have to be hammered open on a hot day...

Actually the first .408 CT rifles were made for Lost River Ballistics by EDM ARMS when they developed the .408 CT. There was a falling out between the two companies and EDM started selling the rifles to recover the money spent.

LRB used CheyTac Assc. to make their version of EDM's Windrunner rifle, which aren't held to the same standards as EDM ARMS. The owner of EDM ARMS, Bill Ritchie, said he will make you the same exact rifle but for less.

And yes, CTA did have the OP's quoted post on their website for a long time. 14K for their sub standard version of EDM's Windrunner is a joke in anyones book. Plus there are other companies that make bolt action rifles in .408 CT for a lot less then either company. If you have to have the break down version like the Windrunner, go with EDM ARMS.