1903 Restoration Complete

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I came across a sporterized 1903 last year, and I picked it up with the intent of bringing it back to as-issued condition. I reparked all of the metal parts this past summer, and I came across a stock at the show this past weekend. A fun project, now I hope to get the Rock Island rifles from the same shop and work on them. What was their original finish?
 

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Excellent! I love to see Bubba's handiwork reversed for posterity. Good job.

As for original finish on Rock Island rifles, originally they were rust-blued and finished with BLO, IIRC.
 
This is a good shot of the park job, and the stock coloring.
 

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Thanks, I just want everyone to know that it can be done, both on a budget and with limited experience.

The true test will come this weekend when I shoot it. I need to replace the rear sight windage knob, which might affect the stability of the sight, but at least it will give me a feel for the rifle. I've never shot a scant stock before.
 
I feel restoring an old vintage firearm that has been bubba-ed is a noble venture.

Personally, I have a weak spot for old dogs like sporterized '03s, bubba-ed Banner mausers, pre war Winchester 70's and 52's or ANY Winchester for that matter- they often follow me home from gunshows and pawn shops...

Bringing it back from the brink of 'death' takes considerably more skill, effort, knowledge, and dedication than bubba had that night he got the cheap bourbon out and decided to drill into the Oberndorf markings to install the weaver side mount with self tapping screws...

Great job. I would also be interested in what you finished the stock with- Watco oil??? Matte Tung oil? Looks great.
 
Good to see I'm not alone...

Thought I was the only one bringing cut-up and sporterized warhorses back into their original issue condition. I'm doing an 1898 Krag right now, matter of fact.

Here's my 1903A4 restoration:

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BTW, do you mind my asking why you chose a "scant" stock for the 1903?
 
Thanks for all the replies, after taking this long to finish it up I figured I'd give a little motivation to those out there who might be in the same boat.

What did you use to refinish the stock with?

I have a water-based stain which I used to get the handguard to match, and then I used a stock oil which is called LinSpeed, manufactured by a company in Mashpee, MA if memory serves. I'll post the specifics of the product. I wetted and steamed the stock a bit to try and remove some of the larger dings, and then applied two coats of the oil as it was previously finished and I only wanted to top it off. I didn't sand it down at all as the 1917 I brought back to life is a bit too smooth for my liking, and I might redo that stock with this method.

I chose a scant stock for two reasons. First, it was the only 1903 stock I've been able to find in the local area. The only other ones I've been able to find have been expensive ones over the internet, and since I'd refinished the metal I wasn't overly concerned with true authenticity.

The second reason is because it's a Remington 1903 Modified, and I've read different things about the rifles produced around the time that this one came out, namely that there was a great deal of variation based upon parts on hand when it came to stamped versus milled, C-stock versus S-stock, etc. I also chose to use a checkered buttplate for now since it's makes it a better shooter, in my opinion, versus the slick buttplate that came on the chopped stock.

The real reason was the price, and availability, I guess. :)

By the way, nice looking 1903A4. I'd like to talk to you about the way the scope is mounted, drop me a pm if you have a minute Gewehr98. I might take on that kind of project as the local shop has several 1903s and 1903A3s which were drilled and tapped on the top of the receiver.

Oh, and all of his Krags are beyond repair, too bad.
 
1903A4's were pretty standard in scope mounting...

Redfield Jr. mount, you're looking for the ones with the square edges, more recent versions are beveled at the corners. The rings are the ones that are split at the top, if you're going for an earlier, WWII 1903A4. Those rifles used the 3/4" Weaver 330C scope, with the 7/8" Lyman Alaskan as substitute standard. Both scopes had a military designation, the Weaver 330C was called the M73B1, while the Alaskan was called the M73, authorized to replace the Weaver late in 1944.

By adding a rain/sun shield and rubber eyepiece to the Alaskan, the M81 and M82 were born. These scopes are seen more often on Korean War and Vietnam-vintage 1903A4's. The M84, with it's metal covered turrets, carried the refinement of the Lyman Alaskan family one step further. This scope wasn't available in quantity until well after WWII, and was most commonly seen on M1D Garands, although it was also issued for use with the 1903A4.

There are also Redfield Jr. 1" diameter rings that worked with the Weaver K4-60 series of scopes, sometimes seen on Vietnam-era 1903A4 rifles.

BTW, are any of those Springfields that are drilled and tapped bearing offset serial numbers on the receiver ring?

The info I have states that scant stocks were used as replacements at depot-level refurbishment locations. The 1903A1, of course, had a full C-Stock (basically the only thing that differentiated it from the 1903), and the 1903A3 usually had a straight grip stock. The 1903A4 could be found with either the scant stock or the C-Stock. My Z-series 1903A4 deer rifle restoration above wears a DuPage Trading Company reproduction C-Stock. I don't know if they even offer them anymore, but Boyd's does. Here's an October 1918 1903 I found in a pawn shop that had been arsenal rebuilt to 1903A1 configuration:

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Steve, what *hotter* ammo are you talking about? Hotter handloads, M2 Ball, or Hornady Light Magnum? M2 Ball was standard issue fodder for both the 1903A3 and M1 Garand, no reason not to use it, or a ballistic duplicate, in a 1903A3 that passes a safety check by a qualified gunsmith...
 
Great stereotype DeBee....

So now ya' gotta be some hulking,bourbon besotted bubba to be hunkered down in the workshop with the dremel tool, hacksaw and other implements of destuction, cutting up old combat queens for fun and profit. Just when we got a bad enough image.jeez. :banghead:

Some of us make a pretty good silk purse out of a sow's ear.
 
A gun show dealer told me that some orginal stocks are reappearing. Does anyone know who is selling them?
 
I understand the 03A3's have nickel steel actions, and should be quite strong enough to fire any reasonable .30-06 load, assuming correct headspace.

I bought my 03A3 already sporterized for $100, when I was a teenager. I shot it for some years, and even got one MOA groups with it before realizing the 2-groove barrel has a slight bulge in it, about halfway down.:eek:

The bolt appears different on mine - I think it was a replacement bolt designed to clear a scope. Odd, it's never had a scope mounted, but does wear a Lyman receiver sight.

still scratching my head as to what to do to mine...:confused:
 
tex_n_cal, take a closer look at that bolt...

It could be an aftermarket or gunsmithed low scope mount version, or it *could* be an original bolt intended for use on the 1903A4. :eek:
 
well, the Nikon and the Springfield were handy, so...

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By the way, we checked the headspace on the gun some years ago, and the gun has a very tight chamber, almost won't accept a "go" gauge, all the more reason why I think it's not the original bolt.

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BTW, are any of those Springfields that are drilled and tapped bearing offset serial numbers on the receiver ring?

Unfortunately, no, all are just drilled and tapped on top of normal markings. I figured it wouldn't be that easy, thanks for the info though.

There are a couple of Rock Island rifles I'd like to restore, but they're low-numbered receivers. The one which still has the rear sight collar intact has had the markings almost polished off, but there's another low-number one which could get all the parts from the other to build a wall-hanger.

I've only found original stocks here and there on e-bay, etc. Regarding the scant stock issue, I neglected to mention that this rifle originally came in a cut-down scant stock with no cartouche, so I don't feel too bad about its configuation. For a real low-budget restoration, I'm happy.

tex_n_cal, how's the book? I saw the movie recently, and read a few of his novels a few years back in college. I thought it was funny that I saw them on the discount table at Barnes & Noble a few months ago, and now they're getting top billing.
 
just started the book - it is the first in the series, simply titled "Master and Commander". The movie is based on a later novel. I think there are 20 books in the whole series, first written about 1970.

More importantly, is the bolt on my 03A3 opriginal, or altered?:D
 
For building a sporterized rifle, would the 1903 or the 1903A3 be better? (Given that the 1903 is about 800,000 serial number.)

Was there anything better about the 03 vs. the 03A3?

Steve
 
Was there anything better about the 03 vs. the 03A3?
The floorplate and trigger guard are machined on the 03, vs stamped steel on the A3. Mainly just a cosmetic issue, but a rifle built on a 1903 looks much better.

I built one about 16-18 years ago and, no, it wasn't in the basement with a bottle of Jack Daniels. I didn't butcher a military rifle either. I bought a brand new, never barreled, nickle steel 1903 action from Sarco for $100, used a Douglass barrel, French walnut stock blank, aftermarket safety and bolt handle. Had a gunsmith do all the work except the stock, which I finished myself after having a pro do the bedding. It's in 25-06.
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:D I will likewise plead innocence - the 03A3 was sporterized when I got it. The previous owner actually thought it unsafe to shoot (probably realized the barrel was bulged). I shot it off and on for 10 years, before realizing the dark spot halfway down the barrel was a slight bulge, not a corroded spot!

Despite being a 2 groove barrel, it will put 180 gr bullets into a little over 1 MOA - that's with the receiver sight and younger eyes on board:rolleyes:

Since mine will never be original, has a pretty nice stock, and since it really should be rebarreled, I am thinking of making it up into a iron sighted sporter, reminiscent of the old Sedgely and Griffin & Howe sporters. Maybe it will be a .30-06, maybe a .338-06, maybe a .35 Whelan.

Besides the fine groups it's shot, I also recall how useful that surplus action was when I had a box of bad factory loads - 3 bad primers out of a box of 20 - they failed to go off on the first firing. What did I do? Just yank on the knob, recock the striker, and the hangfires were safely fired, all without opening the bolt.

When I told my WWII veteran Dad about it, he remarked, "yep, that's exactly what that rifle was designed to do!" :D

Make no mistake, the Springfield WAS a hell of a good rifle!
 
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