M&P .40 Compact Problem

I carry my XD .40 SC in the same holster and this has never happened with it.

Click to expand...

Is the holster specifically designed for the M&P40c?

If not, then I recommend that you get a holster designed for that particular handgun.

I have never had that problem????? same gun too.

JOe

The problem is the holster... Not the pistol. the pressure applied to the leather is causing the mag release button to be depressed. If you are using the same holster for both handguns, then one or the other is in a misfit holster. My advise is to get a different hoster that has some reinforcement in key areas like the mag release.

This is my daily carry rig and is on my hip while driving all the time. (It has never caused a mag to release.)

M&P40 full size in a Kydex CCC Looper IWB holster:

The mag release button is fully shrouded on the opposite side.

5:00 may not help either

No, the problem is NOT the holster, it is the gun. Or, more accurately, a variable of holster design that should not cause a problem is causing a problem with the M&Pc, because S&W has a less-than-ideal mag-release setup on that pistol. Believe me, I carry a M&P every day, and while I love the gun, I am not blind to its shortcomings.

When we first went to the M&P, we had a problem with the magazines ejecting themselves under recoil or routine gun handling. The ordnance guys contacted S&W, and they ended up replacing the mag releases and mag release springs in all of our guns (close to 2k weapons). These were full-size pistols, but the compacts have the same problems. Call S&W, it's a known issue, and they'll fix it. Most of the newer guns don't have this problem, but sometimes it still happens.

It is caused by having a very prominent mag release button, a not-very-stiff spring, and comparatively little engagement between the catch and the magazine. All it takes is a small bump, the mag catch moves slightly, and the magazine drops. As I said, some guns were doing it under recoil, with nothing touching the mag release. Once it is fixed, it doesn't seem to reoccur, but it never hurts to be vigilant for it.

Mike

OK, I rethought it for a moment, and I'll temper my previous statement. It COULD be the holster, but only if it is a really bad design/generic holster. Try this, with an UNLOADED gun and an EMPTY magazine; press the mag release with your thumb, and see if it feels like it is kicking the magazine loose without a lot of effort. Yes, this is subjective, but you have experience with other guns. Does it seem like the mag drops too easily? If it does, trust your gut.

Mike

The guys aren't trying to get you to switch to kydex. They are just asking if the holster was actually designed for the XD and you are using it for the M&P. If so that could be your problem.

They could possibly help more if you identified the holster used and what pistol it was built for.

My M&P 40c was produced about this time last year and it has never exhibited an unintentional mag release issue.

I carry my M&P 40c in both a leather (DeSantis) and a kydex (Comp-Tac) holster, both of which were made specifically for the M&P compact 9/40.

It wouldn't hurt to have S&W examine your pistol to see if an issue exists with your mag catch/spring.

It also wouldn't hurt to make sure your holster was made to accommodate the M&P 40c, especially in the area of the mag catch button so the holster and/or your torso aren't able to press against the mag catch button. Some holster designs create a clearance around the mag catch and some incorporate some protection for the mag catch button, and some of each may be better done by some holster makers than others.

I'd imagine a worst-case scenario might involve a little bit of each problem ... mag catch/spring & holster design/model application.

Coronach said:

When we first went to the M&P, we had a problem with the magazines ejecting themselves under recoil or routine gun handling. The ordnance guys contacted S&W, and they ended up replacing the mag releases and mag release springs in all of our guns (close to 2k weapons). These were full-size pistols, but the compacts have the same problems. Call S&W, it's a known issue, and they'll fix it. Most of the newer guns don't have this problem, but sometimes it still happens.

Click to expand...

this is not the same mag drop issue that occured with various police depts a couple years ago (and very rarely affected anything but the full and midsize models). that issue was resolved a long time ago, and the OP mentioned he just bought his m&p.

the problem is his holster.

If the problem is in the mag catch I would assume it should readily reveal itself while shooting.

mine's exposed but no issues

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I have a different "issue" with my M&P40c. I hesitate to call it a problem, because it is still brand spanking new.

I find the slide release on either side very difficult to disengage - the right side more so than the left. Is this something that will get easier to release once it has some time to break in? I guess I have been spoiled by CZ, Beretta, and BHP types that have a nice long release lever. Those release with just a slight press of either thumb or index finger.

Use the slide to release the slide catch. It is a lot easier that way.

I find the slide release on either side very difficult to disengage - the right side more so than the left. Is this something that will get easier to release once it has some time to break in? I guess I have been spoiled by CZ, Beretta, and BHP types that have a nice long release lever. Those release with just a slight press of either thumb or index finger.

Click to expand...

LIke HippieMagic said... its not really designed to be a slide release. Its like the glock, its a slide lock. To get the slide to close, forget the latch and rack the slide.

JOe

That's what I've been doing - pulling back the slide slightly to take the pressure off the "slide lock". This is a two-handed operation, though.

I guess I am just so used to the following:

1. After the last round is fired and slide locks open
2. Let out the empty magazine
3. Insert new loaded magazine
4. hit slide release to load round into chamber and ready for fire

On a gun with a good slide release lever, 3 and 4 can be done in very quick succession.

I am going to have look up a few youtube clips to see how it's best done with these types. I never did like Glocks very much, and this was one reason. I was really hoping the M&P is different. Oh well...