Hollywoods obsession with hammer cocking sound!

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Just finished watching "In Plain Sight". What is it with Hollywoods obsession with the hammer cocking sound,regardless whether the weapon has a hammer or not?!

US Marshall Marshall pulls his Glock on a bad guy and you hear,"click,click,click"!

Stupid!

Rant over
 
Drama. It makes it more "serious" when the gun gets the hammer cocked back in an already grueling situation.

Why do you think during movies there is background music for many of the scenes? Scary, happy, etc. Its to set an atmosphere. There are sounds and music that you normally wouldnt hear or pay attention to in real life but exist in movies because it would otherwise seem dull. (you dont get up in the morning and hear a montage going on as youre getting ready for work do you?)
 
I challenge you to watch From Dusk Till Dawn and try to count how many times George Clooney cocks and then decocks his .44 magnum. :scrutiny:
 
Just watched Zombie Land, and they cock the lever gun, and shotguns over and over and over and over. It drives me nuts, how hard is it to have a guy on set that knows a little about guns?
 
Yeah and they always rack a pump shotgun when **** is about to hit the fan, as if they wouldn't have had one racked already. Same thing with lever guns in westerns. Of course it's just for dramatic effect, but still annoying to those of us who know how guns work.
 
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On TV and in movies, if someone has a firearm out, every sudden move they make with that firearm makes a click sound. Why? I think the general non-gunny public thinks that guns are supposed to rattle and click with every move. It comes to be expected, and so the sound crew feels the need to put it in in post production.

What's almost as bad is when a character has an uncocked 1911 pointed at someone, then to add drama, when the scene gets REALLY intense, that's when they decide to cock it.
 
Sound guy reads "gun pointed" in script, so as gun is pointed in the visual, he inserts the stock "gun sound" from the audio library. It's a wonder the revolvers don't do the "cha-chunk" pump shotgun slide rack sound effect. It's like the propellor engine sound for the jet airliner in "Airplane!" ...they...just...don't...care (to parody MST3K).

Besides, they are the media and we know nothing until they enlighten us.
 
The audience is desensitized to just loaded guns pointing at other people. After all in Hollywood a lot of dialogue goes on while someone is pointing a gun at someone else. That is the time for a lot of plot to be explored. :scrutiny:

So to ratchet up the suspense and make shooting seem even more imminent, without actually shooting, they include the cocking noise. When in reality just the pointing of the loaded weapon should be enough to reach that level, but is not because of the above reason.


You similarly see a lot of movies and shows with the guy racking the slide on an auto or charging the bolt on a long gun or pumping a pump gun just prior to shooting or dialogue. As if people run around in dangerous situations engaging people who pose a lethal threat, and then just decide at the last moment to chamber a round. They always have just the perfect situation that gives them the time to do so as well.
It is unrealistic, but it adds a perceived increased level of seriousness. Because the audience is accustomed to everyone running around with guns by that point, so just the presence of the gun and it being pointed is not serious enough anymore to get a reaction.
Instead they increase the suspense and announce that something serious might actually happen, because someone finally chambered their weapon! :rolleyes:


Hollywood is entertainment, and entertaining the masses is often about taking people on an emotional rollercoaster, not sticking with reality.
Anyone in almost any profession portrayed in something made by Hollywood can tell you how many things they got wrong, procedures that were ignored, or details that were far removed from reality. Yet is expected to go unnoticed by the typical audience member. It is not about facts or reality, but rather meeting a perceived reality while emotionally engaging the target audience.
 
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Guns are one thing but I always wondered why a 300,000 dollar lambo or any other high end car always has squeaky brakes.
 
Guns are one thing but I always wondered why a 300,000 dollar lambo or any other high end car always has squeaky brakes.

Because on those high-end supercars the brake pads are designed for high-temperature performance, like the temperatures the brakes would reach on a racetrack or a 'fun' road. Almost universally the tradeoff is that the highly metallic pad compounds are both noisy and weak when cold.

But most people won't ever drive a high-performance car or deal with aftermarket racing brake systems, so I guess the director doesn't worry about having the drivers warm up the brakes beforehand or something like that.
 
Metallic??? More like carbon/ceramic composite. :)


Anyways... either you are being sarcastic or completely missed the real point/humor.
 
During movies, I tally up every time I see someone chamber a round AFTER they're already in a firefight. That number equals the "suck factor" on my gunny-movie rating list.
 
I watched part of the Dolly Parton flick 'Nine to Five', not long ago. I think it was Jane Fonda's character who uses a double barrel shotgun toward the end. She fired that gun upwards of ten times.:banghead:
 
It drives me nuts, how hard is it to have a guy on set that knows a little about guns?
The technical adviser is just that - an adviser. He'll offer advice and the producer will say "that may be more realistic, but that click-click sound really sets the mood we are looking for in this scene."

Watch the commentary tracks on DVDs and listen to the comments they make about how they worked hard and sometimes re-shot scenes to get certain sounds, light, color and other things all to setup a mood for a scene. It's art, not reality.
 
Sound guy reads "gun pointed" in script, so as gun is pointed in the visual, he inserts the stock "gun sound" from the audio library. It's a wonder the revolvers don't do the "cha-chunk" pump shotgun slide rack sound effect.

Not that bad, but virtually all movie handguns get the 3-click SAA soundbite for cocking. Kind of like the perpetual and endless recycling of the Wilhelm scream. I've heard it used for bolt and lever action guns, as well.

My personal favorite is when a TDA or SA auto has been fired, then the camera pans over, and the hammer is down.
 
worst of all is (c)rap music and gangsta movies. They cock the same gun 14 times before finally deciding whether to use it or not. (should have spit all the cartridges out but none ever come out) Always the same sound too; sounds like something invented by a foley artist, not a gun.
 
On TV and in movies, if someone has a firearm out, every sudden move they make with that firearm makes a click sound. Why? I think the general non-gunny public thinks that guns are supposed to rattle and click with every move. It comes to be expected, and so the sound crew feels the need to put it in in post production.

I've heard a director comment about this very thing in one of his movies, saying that guns don't make that much noise in real life, but he asked his sound editor to exaggerate it and make each gun sound like several guns rattling all at once. Sometimes they go way too far in movies, true, but generally it's just artistic license in order to heighten drama, excitement, or humor. No matter what the subject, some aficionados are always going to be annoyed, and I assure you that this does not bother most filmmakers one bit. :)
 
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A lot of times it is the post-production sound guys that add in the extra sound effects.
Gah, that reminds me. I was watching some show on the history channel the other day called "Sharpshooters" I think. I only watched a few minutes but a guy was using a lever action rifle to try and split a bullet on an blade and hit 2 targets. Anyway multiple times they used an awful stock sound effect for him working the action that sounded horribly unrealistic and out of place. I don't know why they didn't like the original audio but I would have much preferred silence to what they dubbed in.
 
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