Limits On Amount Of Personal Ammunition

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Someone mentioned to me today they had overheard that there is a federal law that nobody can have over 400 rounds of any one type of ammo. I've never heard anything like that ever. But I thought I'd come here and check it out just to make sure. I mean they sell .22 rounds in boxes of like 500 or so. Not to mention bulk buy sales on .223 and 7.62x39......so they heard wrong, yes?
 
I had a feeling that was it. I keep up with national gun laws pretty well, so I had never heard any limits on the amount of personal ammo one can have. Maybe there is a state law like that in one of the anti-gun states, and the person that heard about it thought it was national.
 
well there will probably be limits set by your local firecode. my experience is that you just get a permit, and are subject to inspection, to ensure proper storage once you are over those limits.

I seem to recall 10K rounds of loaded cartridges, 100k primers, and 100 lbs of powder from somewhere.
 
Where there is a liberal there is a way. They never stop biting till they are completely dead.
 
Where there is a liberal there is a way. They never stop biting till they are completely dead.
How does this comment even make a bit of sense in the context of this thread?
 
W.E.G., nice jacket. :)
Some mall nijna rocket scientist throws this out and it gets taken as gospel. No, haven't heard of anything like this passing anywhere. My limit is how much can I load, and store, not to mention afford the components for!
 
I mean they sell .22 rounds in boxes of like 500 or so. Not to mention bulk buy sales on .223 and 7.62x39......so they heard wrong, yes?
Those retailers and manufacturers must be breaking the law, then. :uhoh:

There have been proposed bills requiring an "'arsenal' license" to possess more than 1,000 rounds of ammo (two bricks of .22s), but they never went anywhere. Yet.
 
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In some countries the restrictions on ammo are as tough as the restrictions on guns.

I would not be surprised at some American jurisdictions try to make it necessary to account for each bullet.
 
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Minnesota does not limit number or rds of ammo. It does, however, limit quantity of powder and primers. I don't know anyone who pays attention to the regs, but technically we can only have 10,000 primers in a residential home (I think) and any more than 8lbs of powder has to be stored in a wooden box with 1in. thick walls. Please don't ask me to find the statute. It's buried somewhere in here:
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/pubs/
 
I have an aquiantance at work thast told me he has 15 different calibers, all at just under a 1000rds each. He says there i a federal satatute that you can be prosecuted at over 1000 rds in any given caliber owned. So instead of a 10,000rds per caliber, he just kept going with new guns and calibers.
 
I had an acquaintance who claimed he got a letter from the BATFE after buying $5000 worth of powder, primers, brass, and bullets in one order. Something about there being a limit on how much powder you could buy at one time.

I didn't believe him, but who knows nowadays.
 
I never heard of limits on how much you can own but I have read many stipulations on how you are required to store progressively larger amounts of powder and primers.
 
This just falls right in line with other popular gun store rumors. Only difference is, when I heard it the story went like this: "If you have more than 1,500 rounds of ammo you have to apply to the government for an arsenal permit"!

Other popular rumors I've heard more than once:

1) The government is requiring the primer manufacturers to only sell primers that have a shelf life of ten years or less. Buy the old ones now before it's too late!!!! (history note: This rumor floated around in the early 90's, and has recirculated again in the past year or so)

2) Obama secretly wrote/signed/and independently passed without congress, a law that bans the production of new guns for civilians, which is why you can't find them in stores. PANIC! BUY NOW!

3) A .50 BMG bullet will kill a person if it passes within 5ft of them... you don't even need to get hit with this bullet, it is just that BIG! Plus, it is used to defeat modern battle tanks.
 
There have been proposed bills requiring an "'arsenal' license" to possess more than 1,000 rounds of ammo.

Ever so often, the national gun control groups propose various "arsenal license" bills that never go far. But they don't give up. Rep. Major Owen used to introduce a bill to repeal the Second Amendment too; that never went anywhere (may have actually helped prod the SCOTUS into leaning toward clarification of the Second, who knows?)

There are dormant bills for various gun control schemes lying like undead zombies in Congress because only a handful of Senators or Representaives support them. Scare e-mails claiming these zombies are shambling forth hit the internet ever so often.

Some of these proposals are modeled on foreign gun laws that are based on fear of revolution (no military caliber firearms--9mm Parabellum, 7.62x51 NATO, etc.) which contradicts the Miller 1939 decision the antis like to cite: if you accept Miller, if any guns (and ammo) are protected, the "unorganised militia" would be required to own current general issue Army guns with enough ammo to be effective if called up or asked to volunteer for active service.

As far as accounting for personal ammo, just for score in the military matches at the local club, I shoot 960 rounds; that does not count practice. The perrenial proposals to slap a $600 health tax on guns or 5000% tax on ammo does not sit well with me, but there is little active support either.

Since the 1980s when the antis first proposed arsenal licenses, I have made a point of stockpiling; a lot of folks I know, made the same decision for the same reason. Back in the 1950s and 1960s, I could count on stopping at convenience stores or gas stations on the way to the mountain and picking up a box of .22 LR, .30-30 or 12ga; the 1968 Gun Control Act changed that restricting ammo sales to FFLs. Now I buy in bulk, just in case some anti-gun administration decides to issue an executive order restricting ammo.
 
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the 1968 Gun Control Act changed that restricting ammo sales to FFLs.
No federal license is required to sell ammo(unless you are the manufacturer). Anyone with a business license can retail sale ammo.
 
Quote: Anyone with a business license can retail sale ammo.

Today. Between the 1968 GCA and the 1986 Firearms Owners Protection Act, ammunition had to be bought at an FFL with the transaction entered in a bound book. It was not until after 1986 that anyone with a business license could retail sale ammo. The 1968-86 law changed my ammo policy for good.

Rumor: perishable ammo

Several gun control advocates have written about requiring ammunition to be formulated to have a limited shelf life, including one lecture by Harold Hongju Koh, delivered 2 Apr 2002 at Fordham U School of Law, NYC, developed from a workshop on Law and International Relations, Program on Global Security and International Relations, Feb 2002, Washington DC. Koh's "supply side solutions" to include "One particularly intriguing idea is the the idea of promoting production of smart or "perishable ammunition," e.g., AK-47 bullets that would degrade and become unusable over time." Koh, "A World Drowning in Guns", Fordham Law Review, Vol 71, p 2359.

Koh also quotes Sen. Dianne Feinstein that the US Supreme Court has never overturned a gun control law on Second Amendment grounds and claims that Ian Ayres and John Donohue, "Shooting Down the More Guns Less Crime Hypothesis", Stanford Law Review 2003, "effectively counters" John Lott, More Guns, Less Crime 1998, 2000.

Since Koh 2002, SCOTUS 2008 and 2010 overturned gun bans in DC and Chicago on 2A grounds. 2008 saw a peer reviewed academic study by Moody & Marvell in Econ Journal Watch looking at 24 or so academic studies on the "More Guns Less Crime" issue, studies limited to original empirical research, and found the majority of articles by several different researchers found some reduction in crime or no bad effects following passage of right-to-carry laws, with only three or four articles, all co-authored or authored by John Donohue, claiming an increase in crime after RTC. All the peer refereed journal articles were of the less crime or no harm conclusion; three of Donohue's articles were in student edited reviews at Stanford U where Donohue was a professor: so much for effectively countering Lott.

Even if the idea of ammo with limited shelf life keeps getting kicked around by eggheads in thinktanks, what are the chances of "perishable ammunition" passing muster with the police in most countries relying on commercial ammunition?
 
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