Berry's Bullets in my Glock

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So I have been loading Berry's plated bullets for my glock 36 (the 185 HBRN) and they have been horrifically inaccurate. Went shooting last Saturday, and was just chucking lead at clay pigeons at 120yds (ish, no distance markers at this range) and found that some would hit way off. Like 6-10 feet right/left/low/high. Tried some Winchester Ranger 230gr +P's and was hitting within a foot or so of the bird I was aiming at (much more acceptable for that distance). Anybody else have issues with these? Sounds to me like they might be tumbling, but that is just a guess. I am thinking of trying the 200gr RN (or something with a solid base) to see if that makes any difference.
 
The Berry's 185 grain HBRN bullet is the most accurate I've found for my Springfield XD. You didn't list your load, but I would suggest that you look at other powders or loads.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 
I've loaded them with both Bullseye and True Blue, and both powders have been excellent as far as accuracy goes. I avoid Unique, since I've found it hard to consistantly meter through any of my five powder measures.

At 10 yards, mine will all go into one ragged hole from both my XD and both of my 1911's. They are similarly accurate through my Witnesses, both the fullsize and Compact.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 
I thought that Glock warned owners about using reloads in thier weapons because the guns might blowup or what ever.

Is that right?
 
theweej,

I have been through 200 rounds of Berry's in my Glock 22, also using unique. i have never got any great results. I have tried every thing i could think of, seating depth, charge weight, amounts of crimp. nothing worked for me so i stopped using them.
 
I will have to try a different powder and see if that makes any difference. I might have to try True Blue, as if it made in Montana, it has to be good ;)
 
My XDm 45, Ed Brown, and Kimber CDP love Berry's in all shapes and weights. I mix brass and primers. Mostly 231 and AA#5 for powders. Thousands of rounds fired.
 
tehweej, I recently did a comprehensive comparison range test with about 15 different jacketed/plated/lead bullets in 9/40/45 including Berry's plated bullets in 9mm (124 gr) and 40S&W (180 gr) - I am not finished with the comparison tests and have 2 threads going for Promo and Green Dot powders.

W231/HP38 was used as reference load with average 1"-2" shot groups at 7/10 yards and 2"-3" at 15 yards offhand.

Promo/Green Dot produced average 1"-2" shot groups at 7/10 yards and 3" at 15 yards offhand.

If you are looking for an accurate powder to compare, try W231/HP38 and Green Dot if you can't find neither (Not Promo since it is large flake powder that does not meter well and only comes in 8 lb containers - but I really like it for duplicating many factory loads for similarly felt recoil practice).
 
was just chucking lead at clay pigeons at 120yds

I guess why would be silly to ask............

I thought that Glock warned owners about using reloads in thier weapons because the guns might blowup or what ever.

Is that right?

EVERY maker does - it's a liability issue


You might try Universal or regular Clays - both work well in pistols
 
I find shooting long distance helps my accuracy improve, as it magnifies any mistake made. Helps me work on trigger control (not jerking the trigger, and making sure I pull straight back). Also, at this range, there are no target stands unless you bring your own, so it is easier to set clays up on the hill.
 
Berry's .45 185gr HBRN

This bullet has become one of our top selling bullets for the .45 caliber due to its accuracy. I shoot it in many different .45's with great success, but I will say the stock Glock pistols take some time with load development to shoot well. I'm not knocking the Glock, I own 4 of them but only my model 27 has a stock barrel in it because that is my carry gun. When we work up a new bullet the stock Glock is the pistol we do initial tests in. Not because it is the most accurate, but because it is the most prolific. I have not tested the 36 with our 185gr HBWC so I can't give you any insight on how to make it shoot. I won't name-drop but some of the top shooters in the world have told me that the 185gr HBWC is the best .45 bullet they have shot. I like to shoot 100yds with my pistols as well to see what I can do and how my ammo is performing, just trying to hit my rifle plate.
 
Berry's- Thanks for the info! I will have to do some load development and post what I find back in here. I was just loading some plinking rounds, and even though I was not looking for ragged-hole-at-50yds accuracy, what I was getting left something to be desired. I love your bullets, and will have to play with different powders and charge weights. I will play with weights first and then if I cannot find a good combo will switch powders.
 
Keep me posted on what you find both good and bad. The only .45's I have are both series 70 Colts, one a stock Gold Cup and the other is decked out with a Barsto barrel.
 
I've shot several 1000 rnds of Berry's 180gr FP in my G-20 and they are extremely accurate with most any powder I've tried. (Tite Group, Blue Dot, Longshot, AA # 9) Right at 1200fps. Although some loads are a bit more accurate than others.

Just started loading for my LCP and the Berry's 100gr RN using HP-38 was much more accurate with this little pistol than factory (PMC) loads.

As for handloads in a Glock, I don't hesitate for one second. The $ I've saved over buying factory 10mm ammo would have bought several new pistols.
Loading lead however for a stock Glock barrel may be another story, so that's why I have an aftermarket Lone Wolf barrel.

Getting back to Berry's, for my use just punching holes and testing loads they work for me, are relatively inexpensive and have been available every time I've ordered.
 
I have run a few boxes of the 185gr HBRN through my Springfield Ultra compact. When using Universal clays, one hole groups were the norm, unfortunatly no matter where I went with the charge, it wouldnt burn all the powder. Changing to regular Clays fixed the powder burn issue, and the groups are just about as good.
 
No idea. I've shot a bunch of 180 grain Berry's bullets in a .40 cal Glock, with no problems. Accuracy was easily as good as factory ammo, just going by the book minimum load.
 
I have to ask, where are you buying jacketed bullets for the same or lower price than plated?

To the OP: running plated bullets down polygonal barrels takes a bit more load development; keep after it, they shoot great.
 
was just chucking lead at clay pigeons at 120yds (ish, no distance markers at this range) and found that some would hit way off. Like 6-10 feet right/left/low/high.
On a recent outing to an outdoor range, we were hitting 124 gr RN Berry's bullets shot out of G17 (factory barrel) unto round metal target (farming disc) set at 100 yards on a consistent basis. They were loaded with W231/HP38.
 
I have to ask, where are you buying jacketed bullets for the same or lower price than plated?

The OP was talking 45 ACP, so I will start there.
Berry Manufacturing .45 230gr RN DS, $134.88/K shipped.
Zero Jacketed Bullets .45 230gr FMJ, $117.75/K shipped.

Others calibers.
9mm.
plated-$80.88/K shipped
Zero- $79.67/k shipped

40 cal
Berry's plated- $118.07/K shipped
Zero Jacketed-$119.44/K shipped

Link.
http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=SFNT&Store_Code=RZD

Like I said, better and in most cases cheaper.
 
I prefer plated bullets to cheap FMJ's, I get better accuracy.
In .45acp the plated SWC's are terrific.
 
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