What grip and stance do you use?

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What grip and stance do you use when shooting a handgun? And also, explain why you use it.
 
The Weaver for several reasons. One being that it's what I've always used and is far more comfortable than the isosceles. The isosceles is not compatible with heavy recoiling revolvers, locked elbows will get you hurt. Nor is it compatible with working a single action revolver fast, which is what I shoot the most. I don't need to be thinking about what stance I should be in for what gun or load I'm shooting so I shoot them all the same, Weaver-style.
 
Depends.

Shooting a pistol from a holster?
Off hand supported? Main hand supported? Unsupported?
Bullseye or for speed?

I have a really odd grip when doing long pistol shots that I have never seen anyone else use, and I only use it in a single circumstance. My support hand index finger is placed at the front of and outside of the trigger guard in what would otherwise be a weaver stance and grip. I find it very stable, but it is not something that I ever go to naturally. It is a 'that shot is really, really long' realization, and then I move the one finger. I only recently started doing it (since my back surgery), but since then, it just kind of evolved. It actually evolved because I was getting a bit of shake after only a few magazines of .45, and I did it mostly out of frustration. Try locking your gun up like that. It is a slightly different feel. There is zero motion at all in the gun, something that I don't get out of any other grip. Just the hammer falling. That never used to be a problem until I got whacked with an axe through the chest, but I have a lot more weakness in my entire right arm and shoulder and it compensates for it.

I really just need to focus on shooting left handed.

Rifles and shotguns are an entirely different story.

Research the basics, then modify them to suit your individual circumstance.
 
I use the same grip that Todd Jarrett uses too. It is a Modified Isosceles.

The stance is right (strong) foot a little back, you lean forward on the balls of your feet and both arms are thrust forward, but you don't lock the elbows.

The grip is with both thumbs pointing forward with most of the griping pressure coming from the support hand, something like this (sorry it isn't very clear)
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I used to shoot a Weaver and than a Chapman, because that's what I was taught would be the best for controlling recoil in a duty weapon. I changed to the Modified Isosceles when I was shown that it allowed faster followup shots while contributing to better accuracy.

I should add that you should learn both stances as you won't always have a choice when you'll need to shoot and you'll use both while transversing targets or shooting on the move
 
Weaver beats everything else out there........except for Modern Isosceles.
 
Grip? Thumbs forward. Why? It provides the best grip and recoil control for me personally.

Stance? It depends on the situation - modified isosceles, Weaver, reverse Weaver, Chapman, strong hand only, weak hand only, compressed, retention or expedient. Why? I don't believe any one stance is ideal nor realistic for every shooting situation. Being proficient in many techniques allows me to fluidly transition from one technique to another, depending on my body position and what is appropriate for the situation.
 
Never heard of strong hand only, weak hand only, compressed, retention or "expedient" (whatever that is) being described as a stance.....

Shooting techniques, yes. Stances, no.
 
I don't know what anyone would call it, but I face the target 90 degrees on, my firing arm(left) is straight, right hand cups the left with right elbow bent. Off side foot is forward, just like shooting a rifle.
I have shot a handgun like this for 45+ years, and it works for me. I once took a defensive class put on by the local Fraternal Order of Police, and a junior instructor kept trying to get me to change. Big Boss Daddy watched, looked at my targets, and told junior to let me be.
The only formal training I have ever had was the M14 and M16 by the US Army.
 
Never heard of strong hand only, weak hand only, compressed, retention or "expedient" (whatever that is) being described as a stance.....

"Expedient" is firing from a compromised body position.

"Stance" is a combination of the shooter's base (body position) and index (how the weapon is pointed at the target).
 
If it's a emergency where speed is the most important thing then I shoot from the hip one handed. I practice this alot with my laser Glock, .22 AACK unit on Glock 26, and full power ammo.

If less speed then I try to use a form of Isosceles with as much sight picture as I need for the shot. I do this every practice session at various speeds and ranges.

And if for some reason I cannot use both hands (it happens guys) then I step forward with my shooting side leg and again use as much sight picture as I need to make the shot. This to is practiced at various range and speeds.

And then I do it over again.... weak handed!

Deaf
 
"If it's a emergency where speed is the most important thing then I shoot from the hip one handed."

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Why do you spend a lot of time on shooting from the hip rather than a retention position?
 
Point shooting from the hip is a skill all its own and a very important one. Unfortunately, not one you can typically practice at most shooting ranges.
 
Center Axis Relock for shots out to 15 yards. For me it is the fastest with combat accuracy. Past 15 yards, a modified Weaver, because it is more accurate for me.
 
Modern Iso as demonstrated in the Todd J. video. Why? Because I am a competition shooter. FWIW, shooting on the move, while getting off the "X", etc. can be derivatives of the modern iso.
 
If it is to protect your life, get in a outdoor range where you can move to a great variety of positions. Stance won't be your problem, it will be your ability to aim the weapon. Lasers can be your friend in these situations.
 
I tried to adjust my grip and stance to what the experts said I should use. But after shooting my way for 30 or so years I just couldn't do it. Not that my form is bad, it's just not anything recommended. I shoot just as well as anyone who uses a "standard" shooting form. I gave up trying to make changes after I saw a few hickok45 videos. He shoots just fine with his own form and mentioned several times to just use what works for you.

The reason I use the Damon555 stance and grip is because it works for me......
 
I just kind of face the target and hold the gun tight enough that it doesn't fly back and hit me between the eyes.

A couple months ago I did try facing away from the target, at 10 yards, bending over and shooting between my legs. The shooting was OK but that "stance" probably wouldn't go over at most public ranges.:D
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Hey, let's all go practice our "Expedient Stance!" Ready? OK !

As a combative shooter, I believe it's important to train for the unexpected with unconventional body positions that I may inconveniently find myself in. This way I know what works and what doesn't, what I should and should not do, and what I can and cannot do.
 
I believe it's important to train for the unexpected with unconventional body positions that I may inconveniently find myself in.
+1

And I'm sure your are proficient in shooting such as weak hand, weak eye, etc, which some folks never practice. :)
 
As a combative poster, I believe it's important to train for the unexpected with unconventional body positions that I may inconveniently find myself in. This way I know what works and what doesn't, what I should and should not do, and what I can and cannot do.

Of course, which is why we should all train in various techniques.

My shooting stance allows for fast, accurate shooting from the arms out. It doesn't matter what the rest of the body is doing or not doing.

I've found that anyone can be accurate, even using a poor stance, shooting slowfire. I've found these same people who previously claimed to be "good" not be able to hit squat when rapid, accurate fire is called for.
 
Center Axis Relock for shots out to 15 yards. For me it is the fastest with combat accuracy.

I thought this "flavor of the week" had long since faded away....

I did a quick search on Youtube and found a couple amusing videos demonstrating this "stance" from about 2 yds. The guy is ALL OVER the target, but at least he was shooting fairly slow.....:rolleyes:
 
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