ScareyH22A
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Anywhere I can go to find good details on these stances?
Grip techniques: Which one do you use?
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kmrcstintn
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depends on how hard I concentrate when I'm slinging lead; sometimes dedicated weaver, sometimes dedicated isoscoles, sometimes a bit of both; I'm working on single hand shooting a bit more nowadays, especially weak hand cross body to dominate eye with the snubby and the long barreled beasts...each one demands a new set of motor skills in grip and angle (ie: the snubby w/ boot grip leaves pinky unsupported and the beasts balance heavy toward the muzzle) & again I find myslef shooting more with supporting leg back and standing sideways, but I try to train with an isoscoles stance because I cannot always guarantee that I will have room to step back and sideways
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I grip the handgunn just as hard as I can without shaking with my strong hand and hang on with my weak hand. Thumbs down with revolvers, thumbs pointing ahead with pistols, thumbs down with one hand. I like the Weaver stance, because that is what I was taught in the beginning and it brings the front sight closer, I like to see the lots of light on both sides of the front sight. (when theres time to notice).
I grip the handgunn just as hard as I can without shaking with my strong hand and hang on with my weak hand. Thumbs down with revolvers, thumbs pointing ahead with pistols, thumbs down with one hand. I like the Weaver stance, because that is what I was taught in the beginning and it brings the front sight closer, I like to see the lots of light on both sides of the front sight. (when theres time to notice).
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isosceles for me, but that all goes out the window when you start shooting anf moving, and in alot of the positions that you might find yourself in in a gun fight. if you can get a good stance that is great but don't be too surprised if you aren't able to assume a good textbook stance when you need to defend yourself.
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This may help, and there are related vidoes there as well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFq5Qkedl3Q
There is another portion of the interview with Weaver which is in the written version and I don't see it here. In the full interview Weaver points out that some time after he had developed his stance he read an article on it which went into some detail on foot positioning in the Weaver stance as well as mentioning an isometric push/pull on the gun. Weaver points out that he had never thought of these things and wasn't aware of any particular foot stance he used. He used what seemed right for where he was and how he wanted to move. He also said that he did not think of any isometric tension on the gun, he just held it in two hands and raised it enough to see the sights well and dipped his head a bit. That was it.
Nowdays when you look at instructors teaching the Weaver they will argue among themselves the correct foot positioning, correct amount of push/pull tension, etc. They will argue the Weaver vs. the "modern" isoceles, etc. Silliness most of it.
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possum
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zak posted pics, i guess i will too.
here is what i set up when i can,
but as you can see from these that technique has to be modified to work in other situations/ body positions if used at all.
here on my knees.
ie shooting behind cover etc.
here is what i set up when i can,
but as you can see from these that technique has to be modified to work in other situations/ body positions if used at all.
here on my knees.
ie shooting behind cover etc.
Zak Smith
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One of the points of modern isosceles is that it works very well while on the move.
............... Larger version of above photo.
bigfatdave
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I have noticed an improvement using modern isosceles in the last few months. I always shot Weaver, so every time I pick up a pistol I start to assume Weaver, and then go to the M.I.
Perhaps it is just that I am really thinking about my stance and thus improving fundamentals, but it works.
Now to drill/train the M.I. as the primary stance, so I can assume it without extra thinking.
Perhaps it is just that I am really thinking about my stance and thus improving fundamentals, but it works.
Now to drill/train the M.I. as the primary stance, so I can assume it without extra thinking.
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Placing your support hand UNDER the gun hand is the old "cup and saucer" technique.
It was lacking then, it's lacking now.
When firing single shots or slowfire, then technique doesn't matter as much.
There are pictures of Elmer Keith firing a .44 magnum in full recoil that show his hands totally separated by the recoil force. For SINGLE shots, such as when hunting, this doesn't matter one whit.
For accurate RAPID FIRE, such as when shooting to defend your life, it matters a lot.
A good, properly executed technique allows the gun to be controlled during rapid fire. (We'll define rapid fire as 1 shot per 1/2 second or faster)
If your technique or execution won't allow that, then keep looking or tweaking.
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It was lacking then, it's lacking now.
When firing single shots or slowfire, then technique doesn't matter as much.
There are pictures of Elmer Keith firing a .44 magnum in full recoil that show his hands totally separated by the recoil force. For SINGLE shots, such as when hunting, this doesn't matter one whit.
For accurate RAPID FIRE, such as when shooting to defend your life, it matters a lot.
A good, properly executed technique allows the gun to be controlled during rapid fire. (We'll define rapid fire as 1 shot per 1/2 second or faster)
If your technique or execution won't allow that, then keep looking or tweaking.
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