Cz-82: yes or no?

tovio, if the "safetys" on those pistols are not worthless, why are they not used on other guns?

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Hmm... No other DA/SA has a cocked-and-locked safety? They all have decockers? I guess you're right, because I can't think of one. I guess the designers of the CZ-82 wanted to give the users the cocked-and-locked option, but I'm not sure why. As I said, I've used the safety for a brief pause while firing, but if there was a decocker I would surely use that instead. The only reason I use the safety in that situation is to save the trouble of manually decocking when I'm not planning on holstering the pistol.

Yes, I had the pleasure of trying one a friend of mine owns. Excellent trigger, and overall quality for the price.

No other DA/SA has a cocked-and-locked safety

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My CZ40B has the "cocked and locked" option and is DA/SA.

Buy now !!!!!!!!!!!!

a) Yes, you should get one.

b) Yes, $250 is high, but if they go for $200 online, then you pay $25 for shipping and $25 for transfer....

I paid $260 for mine.

I applied for a C&R license, and if it comes through, I'll probably get another one for my wife and mom. Ammo's in the mail.

A C&R license is the best way to buy a pistol, that is in my view the best gun value on the market today.

Heck I think I saw them at CDNN for $179.00.

No other DA/SA has a cocked-and-locked safety? They all have decockers? I guess you're right, because I can't think of one.

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the FNX can be placed on safe when the hammer is back, or when the hammer is down.

Great guns.... they should be under $200 OTD even for hand picked excellent condition. Anything over that is a crime. IMHO.

They are not easy to detail strip but IMHO no CZs are. All CZs are overly complicated vs other designs.

No other DA/SA has a cocked-and-locked safety? They all have decockers? I guess you're right, because I can't think of one.

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Not true right off the top of my head....

• FNX & FNP USG
• HK USP multi-calibers
• HK 45C & HK 45
• HK P30 9mm
• CZ40B

Not true right off the top of my head...

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How about a DA/SA that has no decocker and no way to decock? Taurus makes those.

Again, the safety on a cz82 cannot be engaged UNLESS the hammer is back. It is a stupid feature on an otherwise swell gun.

Again, the safety on a cz82 cannot be engaged UNLESS the hammer is back. It is a stupid feature on an otherwise swell gun.

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While the gun is clearly designed to be carried in DA, and a decocker would be nice, the thumb safety can be useful at the range I guess.

As easy as the double action is on the gun, I doubt I'll be keeping the hammer cocked unless shooting on the range.

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I wish the double action on my FNP, FNX, Sig, or 5906 was as nice as the cz-82

I wonder, is the trigger that good because it's just designed right, or because the czechs actually bothered to machine the ignition components so finely on military pistols (which seems pretty wasteful to me, although I thank them for it).

The machining is good, but its defiantly NOT hand fit, rather it's an 'over engineered blank of a trigger'

BTW, don't try taking it apart unless you know what you are doing AND feeling brave.

Well, one good thing about the cz82 safety. It it was not there they would just have to drill in something equally as stupid in order to import the gun, like on toks.

Again, the safety on a cz82 cannot be engaged UNLESS the hammer is back. It is a stupid feature on an otherwise swell gun.

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I curious, why would you want the safety engaged in double action?

BTW, don't try taking it apart unless you know what you are doing AND feeling brave.

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What, do you want to live forever?

It makes sense in the same way the XD and Glock make sense, similar approach, keep the gun ready and safe (mostly)

AND you can Safely decock the pistol, the hammer safety is lowered at the same time the sear is released, you pull the trigger, let the hammer off the sear, let go of the trigger and THEN lower the hammer, if you slip once you release the trigger, the hammer block will prevent a ND.

It depends on the expected usage

These are great pistols for the cash
and enjoyable to shoot

1) As an EDC for CCW and protection its a HUGE PASS

The pistol is willing BUT available JHPs from what I have seen, consistently fail to expand. I am uncomfortable with a FMJ for CCW.

2) As a fun gun for the range it is a great purchase. Very accurate. GREAT trigger!

There are a tremendous amount of choices in small 9mm pistols. In these the good Bullets actually expand. 9mm is my minimum for carry.

If that safety system was not ackward and stupid, it would be used on other guns. Who would want a safety that can be engaged only with the hammer back? Maybe they did it to piss off the Russians. Last comment. Op, enjoy your purchase.

I began looking at this model recently, very appealing. The fly in the ointment is paint, for some reason a painted gun looks as cheap as a zinc gun to my eyes. I'm thinking of buying one, stripping the paint off, and parkerizing it. I like parkerizing, blue would be better but is above my equipment/skill level. I like the sights, the trigger system, even the round. One wouldn't cause heresy shooting Wolf in it and letting the empties lay there.

Polygonal rifling is a consideration if one is shooting cast bullets, but that's not a deal breaker because I've come to enjoy the ease of loading plated bullets, much cleaner.

In short it looks better to me than most of what passes for new handguns in the display cases now days.

1) As an EDC for CCW and protection its a HUGE PASS

The pistol is willing BUT available JHPs from what I have seen, consistently fail to expand. I am uncomfortable with a FMJ for CCW.

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The soviets were anything but stupid. If 9x18 fmj didn't work, they wouldn't have chambered so many freakin' guns in it. Just saying. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they had tried out various calibers on political prisoners and decided that 9x18 killed them just fine.

The soviets were anything but stupid. If 9x18 fmj didn't work, they wouldn't have chambered so many freakin' guns in it. Just saying. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they had tried out various calibers on political prisoners and decided that 9x18 killed them just fine.

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Of course it does. But there is an American tradition for overkill, that has many people shooting calibers that they have difficulty in shooting accurately. I see it every week at my club. People shooting shotgun blast sized patterns at 7 yards. But then when you read the posts here, everyone is a great shot, and feels the need to carry the smallest .40 cal and up that they can find. I suspect that I know what the truth is.

Um, I carry a .32 as my EDC, because in my situation, if I'm using it, ALL ELSE has failed, in which case it's time for Thermopylae. Having the lightest .40 out there, let me assure you, pass, stick to 9mm, for just pure accuracy, the CZ82 put 2 mags in a pie plate at 10~ish yards for my brother, a hippy computer programer, who spends more time getting the shadows right on his 'guns' that actually looking, let alone shooting one (BTW his wife didn't take us going shooting)
As a CCW, I carry it for
capacity
accuracy
size

All in all, I think it's a damn good compromise. narrow in the snout (the part down your pants), full in the grip, comfortable, controllable, capacity, light enough to carry all day, heavy enough to be really shootable.