My Short Response To Anti-Gun Friends and Family

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I posted a picture of Talo 1911 on my FB page today. My caption simply said that it was a beautiful piece of work. A "friend" that I haven't seen in two years decided to post saying, "Guns are bad, mmmk."

That illicited a response from my mother. She was polite and informed him that gun's can't be bad they are inanimate objects. :D Then my aunt responded to my mom and it went down hill.

This was my final response,

"We should keep this about the artistic quality of the workmanship in the picture. We all have our opinions about guns.

I have spent literally scores of hours studying statistics and reports from the U.N, the FDA, the CDC, the FBI, and many other sources. Based on the research I have come to my conclusions and stand by them. If others disagree that is fine. We can talk about a million other things. I won't ask you to buy one and you don't ask me to give up my naturual right to self defense."

I figure that was the best way to bring it all to an end without hurting too many feelings. Was I too soft? Should I have posted some data? I don't know. I do know I was amazed how fast people could turn on each other over the topic.
 
Great Scott, I alternate between a CZ Phantom and CZ P-07 as my FB profile pic, no issues. CZ-USA is a "friend", and others are people who know me or are connected through the shooting sports. Anyone posting something like that on a firearm-related FB post would likely be buried by others before I got to it.
 
I think you did fine. You aren't going to change an anti - it's a process of self-discovery if not self-preservation.

Which reminds me of one of my favorite jokes:


How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb?
...
Only one; but it really has to want to change. [badum bum!]
 
Judging by what the fellow said, he might have been quoting the fictional character of Mr. Mackey, from the TV show South Park. The guy could have been making a fun jab at you, tongue-in-cheek.
 
Guns and owning guns is one of those topics which there are rarely any people neutral. They also think that their opinions are right and obviously anyone who disagrees is wrong. Someone has to have an open mind to even civilly discuss it.
 
I think you did just fine. Do be careful when postings firearm pics on the web though. Some companies/employers will search the web and "social networking" sites to search for dirt on potential employees. I 100% disagree with this shameful and downright sad/sorry practice, but it's the truth and an ugly one at that.

All else aside, exercising our first amendment rights (all of us) is one of the greater gifts endowed to us throughout these United States. So we should never second guess what we believe is right inside us. You did just fine brother.
 
Judging by what the fellow said, he might have been quoting the fictional character of Mr. Mackey, from the TV show South Park. The guy could have been making a fun jab at you, tongue-in-cheek.
That was my first thought exactly.
I would have laughed and moved on.
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I'm right there with Sarge. I don't take unsolicited criticism very well and think facebook is a ridiculous waste of time which invites people's comments on what otherwise is not their business. Given that,you did fine. No sense in stirring the pot.
 
I avoided Facebook for a long time. I started working the overnight shift back in March though. So, I spend even less time talking to family and friends than before. Facebook lets me keep up with them when I otherwise couldn't.
 
Judging by what the fellow said, he might have been quoting the fictional character of Mr. Mackey, from the TV show South Park. The guy could have been making a fun jab at you, tongue-in-cheek.
I don't watch South Park. I don't feel too bad if I missed the joke. I actually kept out of it until I made my post. Then I deleted the whole thing an hour or two later.
 
I have no reason to put my life up on the web for someone to see. That being said, good answer.
 
Judging by what the fellow said, he might have been quoting the fictional character of Mr. Mackey, from the TV show South Park. The guy could have been making a fun jab at you, tongue-in-cheek.

This ...

I think I will steal some of hso's rhetoric here.

I think we do ourselves a disservice in this case if we approach ALL GUN RELATED TALK as serious business instead of informed members of society.

I don't think everyone needs to watch south park and be up on the latest internet memes ... but when we blatantly fall for a troll like this ...we do look kinda like backward ideologues. 8)
 
I have had several discussions on facebook over guns. I like having them, debating is fun for me. I have several anti gun friends, well more like acquaintances but they like to rant at me, I try to inform them.
 
Anytime anybody questions my affinity for guns.Or staes that they"hate" them,Or they're "bad",I just remind them that if Billy Bob Bogeyman is kicking his way through their back door at 3 a.m,They're going to pick up the phone[if they're lucky enough],and call for a GUN to come save them.
 
I think you did just fine. Do be careful when postings firearm pics on the web though. Some companies/employers will search the web and "social networking" sites to search for dirt on potential employees. I 100% disagree with this shameful and downright sad/sorry practice, but it's the truth and an ugly one at that.

I wouldnt want to work for that employer anyway. I live in the only state that does not allow concealed carry, yet my boss prefers that I carry a gun on company property, concealed. We have nothing to do with the gun business BTW, we are a car dealership, I am the Service Manager.
 
Hi everybody. This is my second post in THR after having introduced myself in the sticky meant to do so.

I live in Europe. You guys live in the US. As far as I know there are quite a few differences regarding gun culture depending on what state you live in, but in general, you have a quite broader knowledge about firearms and firearms ownership than the average citizen does over here. You might be called a "freak" here for liking firearms/shooting sports. The one calling you so might be a real freak, so who cares, but there is a general perception that "guns are bad" and "guns make people violent".

With age and experience, I have developed an array of answers to those things. One is that we get people stabbed in fights or domestic violence incidents on a regular basis, so let's ban knives, screwdrivers and anything likely to be used as a weapon. Another one could be something like "bad guys have illegal firearms with which to harm you, if you were a legally armed citizen, you'd stand a chance of defending yourself/your loved ones and not become a victim". Then there's the crime rates. Countries with an almost total ban on firearms that have higher crime rates than others with more flexible firearms ownership laws.

Considers yourselves lucky. No country is perfect, but at least it is legal to protect and defend yourself in the US. Not everyone can say the same :(.
 
My response is "If this is a point that will make or break this relationship, obviously you are letting emotions overrule all that you already know is true and good about me." Followed by "I am not the one attacking your beliefs as I do not judge you as you are attempting to judge me."
 
People who believe that inanimate objects can be "good" or "bad" exhibit the sort of primitive thought processes which underlie worship of rocks, trees and other objects. It's no different from believing that "evil spirits" cause disease.
 
People who believe that inanimate objects can be "good" or "bad" exhibit the sort of primitive thought processes which underlie worship of rocks, trees and other objects. It's no different from believing that "evil spirits" cause disease.
Maybe so.

But I really prefer not to have nuclear weapon or a tank car of toxic waste in my backyard.

Call me crazy...
 
I don't do facespace or mybook or other type sites, but don't you decide who can comment? I think my kid calls it un-friend.

My wife says it's best if I stay away from those sites as I'm intolerant of other's opinions...but what does she know?
 
I keep anybody work related off my FB account, so I'm not too worried posting pics of firearms. Most people who know me just accept that this is another in a growing list of eccentricities. I also post photos of stored potatoes and manual typewriters.
 
you'r space---

personaly I won't get on my space -you'r space -face book - year book etc. from what i have read just about face book alone makes me want to stay clear of many of these sites. we have to put too much out there now let a lone letting the folkes running these sites do as they wish with you'r info.
 
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