what's the worst gun you've ever owned?

I've had two that were crap. One was a RG .22 revolver...enough said...and the other was a Beretta tip up .22 short pocket auto, a little single action. Total POS. When it didn't jam, it misfired. I can find good things about all the other firearms I've owned even if I don't much like 'em.

Marlin Model 60 22 long rifle was my worst performing new gun purchase.

#1 Colt Government Model Jammamatic. Purchased new, this turkey would seldom get through a magazine of hardball without a jam - or more likely, 2 or 3. Worse than the gun was Colt's factory warranty NON service; after several trips back with NO improvement, I realized that Colt's was just jerking me around, amusing themselves at my expense. I vowed never to purchase another Colt - and I haven't.

#2 Kahr P9. Problems? Slide wouldn't lock back. Slide locked back prematurely. Failure to go into battery. Trigger pin walked out. Trigger failed to actuate striker. Went back to Kahr repeatedly, but when they couldn't fix it, they replaced it. (Kahr paid for shipping both ways as well, so Kahr tried honestly to make things right - unlike Colt's. )

Still, I traded the unfired replacement for a G26 which works very well.

MCgunner said:

I've had two that were crap. One was a RG .22 revolver...enough said...and the other was a Beretta tip up .22 short pocket auto, a little single action. Total POS. When it didn't jam, it misfired. I can find good things about all the other firearms I've owned even if I don't much like 'em.

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Out of curiosity, which model was it? The RG10 seems to be the most problematic pistol they ever produced with the RG14 coming in second. Later models, while not amazing seem to be alot better.

In the last fifteen or so years, I have had only two pistols that were never right. The worst was a Taurus PT745 that took two trips to Miami at six weeks per, and would still FTFeed 25% of the time.

The second was a KT PF9 that was extremely ammo finicky, and I could never depend on it.

Folks Taurus anything is just complete junk... I put them in a class of what was once called "Saturday night specials" a complete waste of good money. Those cement heads at Taurus just cheap copy every gun any other manufacturer make. Honestly the only original gun I've seen come out of there front door has been the Judge revolver and now S&W is copying them - lol... Actually as semi useless as that Judge is I do like the idea to bad you can't hit the broadside of a barn with them.


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Glock 30SF. Severe failure-to-return-to-battery issues.
Glcok 36. Severe failures-to-feed and failures-to-eject.

1st gen Sigma .40. No hesitation.

Micro said:

Glock 30SF. Severe failure-to-return-to-battery issues.
Glcok 36. Severe failures-to-feed and failures-to-eject.

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Ahhhhhhh someone who's man enough to say that Glocks aren't even near the definition of "perfection"

What I find interesting/surprising in this thread is that I was expecting typical answers to this question to be the usual suspects like Llama, Jennings etc.. But instead I see replies fingering 'reputable' gun manufacturers like S&W, Colt etc.

Did not think I would see a lot of that but I have always subscribed to the theory that there is a lemon produced in every lot of everything that is made so that's what I attribute this to. I have never, however, concluded that because of the occasional lemon one should completely avoid the manufacturer (seems that too often I see blanket statements).

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Ranger30-06 said:

Ahhhhhhh someone who's man enough to say that Glocks aren't even near the definition of "perfection"

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Don't know if anyone watched MidWayUSA's Gun Stories yesterday (hosted by Joe Mantegna) but it was entirely devoted to the history of Glock and was quite interesting (remember the 'scare' of that nasty black plastic toy like gun that would completely evade security at the airport for example? Of course they forgot the fact that the barrel was steel (duh!).

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Kahr is really odd...My EDC is a rock solid CM9. I've also had several other awesome Kahrs. But what is fair is fair and the worst most problematic pistol I've ever owned was a Kahr PM45 followed in very close second by a Kahr PM40...
Just the thought of the crap and cash I went through with those two POSs make me want to vomit

Colt 1911's not what they used to be - pretty much the same for most of the manufacturers except maybe Ruger they have found a way to keep costs down and still make a decent dependable product

1911 Colt Gov't Model .45 Auto in the early '80s. I just knew it was supposed to be perfect because all the gun writers said the 1911 was "venerable" and the world's best manstopper. I figured all automatics were supposed to jam and shoot 12" low at 10 yards.

Then I bought a Glock and discovered The Truth.

norinco 213 9mm tokarev

Worst ever was Norinco 9mm tokarev. Uses standard 7.62 x 25 magazines with a spacer inside the mag to reduce to 9x19 length. The mag lips can barely get ahold of the round and causes ftf. Was like new and cheap. I still have it and have a plan on how to fix oneday.

danburgess said:

Worst ever was Norinco 9mm tokarev. Uses standard 7.62 x 25 magazines with a spacer inside the mag to reduce to 9x19 length. The mag lips can barely get ahold of the round and causes ftf. Was like new and cheap. I still have it and have a plan on how to fix oneday.

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That's surprising as both the Norinco 1911 and their 870 replica are really good quality firearms albeit from China. I know they make (or shall I say copy others) but I have not actually shot any of them.

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A Beretta 9000.

Has to be a 3 inch, S&W model 10, round butt I owned back in the early 1980's. Total POS from the start. With less than 50 rds thru it the gunshop took it back for full purchase credit. Froze up after 2 cylinders at first, then after factory repair 1 cylinder. Glad the shop bought it for full credit. Wish I had the replacement Ruger Security Six replacement now.

Worst of all: Taurus Model 83. Bad barrel, cylinder wasn't straight, chambers were rough, timing was off, but it had great nickel plating.

Worst "good" gun: Colt Combat Commander. One of the most expensive guns I've ever bought, and a total POS. Two trips to Colt, and one with a local gunsmith got it to the point it would sometimes shoot through a whole magazine. The local guy said it was "a mess", not one thing was straight in it.

PT92 said:

What I find interesting/surprising in this thread is that I was expecting typical answers to this question to be the usual suspects like Llama, Jennings etc.. But instead I see replies fingering 'reputable' gun manufacturers like S&W, Colt etc.

Did not think I would see a lot of that but I have always subscribed to the theory that there is a lemon produced in every lot of everything that is made so that's what I attribute this to. I have never, however, concluded that because of the occasional lemon one should completely avoid the manufacturer (seems that too often I see blanket statements).

-Cheers

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Maybe the answer is that enthusiasts like most on this forum don't usually buy Jennings, etc. I've only seen two Jennings pistols lately and both were owned by 1st time gun buyers who didn't even have a clue how to field strip them.

S&W Sigma 40V horrible 15 lb trigger horrible accuracy, also jammed once on every magazine it fired, sent it back to S&W and they replaced both the followers and springs in the magazines. Sold it and bought a Glock 26 much better trigger great accuracy despite being much smaller. When I look at a S&W M&P I see a Sigma with a little cosmetic work, same trigger. Wouldn't even think of buying one.

Easy...a C.O.P., it wouldn't fire four rounds in a row for love or money. Trigger was the absolute worst I have felt on any firearm. It's only redeeming value is as a safe queen due to it's relative rarity.

For me, SCCY CPX1 9mm. Trigger was crap, at best. Safety was poorly placed and designed. And after 100 rounds downrange from being a brand new gun, the guide rod looked like someone attacked it with a bottle of Wild Turkey and a Dremel...
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to enjoy the first real rain I've seen since April on my balcony. With a bottle of Wild Turkey. I don't trust myself near the Dremel!

I also have a sccy 9mm, mine will shot every time and I havnt had any ftf, but it is SOOO inaccurate!! I'm about to get me a better 9mm, I also had a jennings 9mm, that gun was just dangerous! It would fall into bursts, took it apart and threw it away, no one needs that kinda danger! My Taurus pt25 stovepipes every other round, but I got it for like 50 bucks, I plan on sending it into the factory, I'm hoping they can get it to be a little more reliable. Kinda in the reverse here but I have a jeminaz 22 that works great, fun little plinker!