Remington Model 11 from 1920

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chuck pullen

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Today I stumbled across a 12 ga. Remington Model 11 mfg'd in 1920. It has a 20 inch barrel, and has serial # 217,XXX. It's in nice shape. I learned that magazine extensions for 870s fit if you add a 1/8 in. spacer. I tried the Scattergun Tech +2 extension from my 870 and it does fit. I'm very happy. I paid $249 plus tax. I might have overpaid a bit, but I wanted it. Anyone have one?
 
I have one. I bought it in 1966 for $35. It came with a cheap gun case and a wooden cleaning rod. Killed plenty of ducks and geese with it, back in the day. Bought an 1100 in the 80's, and havn't used the 11 since, but it was a good gun, my first auto-loader.
 
Chuck that is a nice riot gun, I found one that somebody painted the whole gun, every exposed surface od green. I paid $180.00 for it. I took it home and completely detail stripped it, removed the green paint from the wood and metal. I still don't understand what drove somebody to do that to a fine old gun the wood and metal under that nasty paint where in good shape. The date code on mine dates to 1929, and underneath that paint I found what I assume was a previous owners name and city engraved on the receiver. My stripping process also removed most of the original finish from the stock and forend so a co-worker of mine refinished them, but the metal has a very nice brown patina to it. Enjoy your gun, for an original riot gun I don't beleive you done bad at all. These early pre WWII riot guns where issued to police and prison guards, as well as the wrong side of the law. Clyde Barrow made a whippet out of one also.
 

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Thanks guys. JL1288, what brand and model of buttpad is that. Mine is hard plastic. I won't trash the original, but a soft recoil pad would be nice.
 
Nice guns.I love older Remington guns.Some things to check out on these.Make sure you have all the parts for the recoil system(friction washers) and make sure they are set up for the type of ammo you are using(see below link).
Strip the receiver down and check the left rear side of the bolt for cracks.Make sure you install a new recoil buffer inside the rear of the receiver.The original ones generally have worn out or disintegrated.

Yes the thread pattern on the mag tube hasn't changed in hundred years.I have a Tac-Star 10 shot extension on one of my Model 11s with the appropriate spacer.I get alot of looks with that one.

http://www.wisnersinc.com/additional_info/remington_11.htm
 
I found some round metal shims that fit perfectly over the mag tube and used 4 of them for about .180 total thickness.
 
Chuck it is made by Pachmayr, and it appears to have been on the gun for a long time. I don't know if you have been to the range yet with yours, but these long recoil shotguns give a pretty good push of recoil. Still they are a hoot to shoot and as long as the friction rings are set correctly for the load you are using and I would also suggest a very light coating of oil on the mag tube they run great. When I had mine apart first thing I did was inspect the bolt and the fibre washer riveted to the back of the receiver. So go have fun with your old remmy.
 

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I always heard not to oil the mag tube, as it prevents the friction ring from doing it's job.
Rodinal...where did you find those shims? I have wanted to try a mag extension for a long time. Some have suggested using the side sling adaptors made for the 870...the kind that goes between the extension and the mag tube.
Here is my Model 11...bought it at a gun show in a FTF deal for a bargain price. The barrel was longer originally, but was profesionally shortened at some point. Since this pic was taken, I have put a Ramline Auto 5 plastic forend on it, since the original wood had the usual cracking. The plastic buttstock could be used if the reciever tangs were bent to fit.
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Chuck here are just two pics of the mod. 11 in action, my wife and I took our four sons and two daughters in law to the local skeet range. We were shooting with a variety of shotguns. We try and get as many of our kids together as schedules allow and have a blast (pun intended) busting clays. It helps my wife is also a shutterbug she loves taking pics of everything. As you can see, that mod. 11 nearly sweeps her off her feet but she loves shooting that gun. "The family that enjoys the shooting sports together, stays together."
 

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I had some issues with cycling with target shells when I first got the shotgun, and yes I checked and double checked the friction rings, I'm not talking running the oil dripping wet but an very light coating and after that, the cycling problems went away. When I got home and took the gun down for a good cleaning the fibre wad and the bolt showed no signs of being pounded, also I use regular old rem oil on it which does tend to evaporate after running 150 shells thru the gun.
 
I bought them at a Sears Hardware store.Any good hardware should carry them.

OD: 1.495"

ID: 1.013"

Thickness: 0.046"
 
I have one made in 1914. Same safety as yours. I paid $60 for it a s a "parts" gun. It had a dent in the barrel. I sawed the barrel off to 18+ inches and put about $60 into it (fitted a butt stock) and it runs like a top.
 
I always heard not to oil the mag tube, as it prevents the friction ring from doing it's job.
Sometimes that is true, and sometimes the friction ring does its job too well, even in the "light" setting. If the gun runs reliably without oil, run it without oil. But some need a touch of oil. A couple of my Franchi 48s do, one doesn't. ;)
 
Go to the Browning website and download the owners manual for the auto 5, it states all you need to know about lubricant on the mag tube. The Browning A5, Remington M11, and Savage 7xx are all the same JMB design, just a different mfg. Yes Browning states a high quality lube is essential to the proper function of the long recoil design. Thanks 1K, didn't know the basic design was still being mfg'd.
 
I always heard not to oil the mag tube, as it prevents the friction ring from doing it's job.

Not so. It's designed to work with a light coat of oil. This is not the place to try out your new teflon or moly Wonderlube, but plain old gun oil is just the thing. It generates more friction than called for when the brass bushing is dragged across a dry, rusty tube.

The magazine tube on the Automatic 5 should be wiped clean of all dirt and grit and then lubricated lightly with an oiled patch.

http://media.browning.com/pdf/om/auto5_light_om_s.pdf, page 3
 
Thanks 1K, didn't know the basic design was still being mfg'd.

Yeah, the Franchi 48s were an "Italian knockoff" of the A-5, but to my eye are quite sexy. And they're a joy to carry as they're aluminum-framed (at least the 48 ALs are).

They stopped making the 12 gauge in 1999ish, but they still make the 20 and 28.

Gratuitous shots of my 12 gauges FYI ;)

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They are very handsome and much more graceful lines. I see the bolt release button is on the opposite side of the frame. I have a S&W M1000 like that and I'm still getting used to it. How are those alloy frames as far as recoil? I like the lines on those Franchi's much more than the Remmy M11-48. Very nice collection, but now you've given me a new itch to scratch I like those Franchi's.
 
They do indeed thump you a bit, but when you're after birds you don't notice. :D I haven't shot a 20 or 28 version and they may be better in that regard.

But they are an absolute joy to carry around the hills all day, or "hiking with a gun" which is what my hunts generally turn out to be, LOL. FYI they are (the 12 gauges) very inexpensive... I haven't paid more than about $350 shipped for mine. Keep an eye out and you can get great deals. Barrels are relatively expensive, though... $150ish used. So buy one with the length/choke you want. ;)
 
Guys:

Thanks for all the info. JL1288, great pictures and good-looking family! Rodinal, I'll be going to Lowe's for those spacers tomorrow. 1kperday, thanks for posting the info and pictures. This has turned into a nice thread.
 
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