Ghost Tracker
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So...they want to live as much as I do while knowingly making decisions that lessen the odds of that happening? No wonder I was never drawn to a life of crime. I'd be terrible at it!
The fear of over-penetration is a misconception, which was created back when law enforcement was trying to overcome misinformed public resistance to the use of hollowpoint ammunition. In the process, we began to believe it ourselves. First, our lawyers are unaware of any sucessful legal action resulting from the injury of a bystander due to a round over-penetrating the subject. We are aware of numerous incidents of Agents/officers being killed because their round did not penetrate enough (Grogan and Dove, for example). Further, if you examine shooting statistics you will see that officers hit the subject somewhere around 20-30% of the time. Thus 70-80% of shots fired never hit their intended target, and nobody ever worries about them – only the ones that might “over-penetrate” the bad guy. Third, as our testing shows, even the most frangible bullets designed specifically for shallow penetration will plug up when striking wood or wallboard and then penetrate like full metal jacket ammunition. We are aware of successful legal actions where an innocent party has been struck by a shot passing through a wall, but as we have proven, ALL of them will do that.
The bullet entered the right anterior chest, perforated the lung and exited through the right lateral chest wall and re-entered the right upper arm, fracturing the right humerus.
...between the bad guys eyes...
Gents, we've got ourselves some gen-you-wine Annie Oakleys here! Y'all sound like you know what you're doing. If you act like sound, then it really doesn't matter what ammo you select. Y'all will run that intruder off with your...game face....shoot the bad guy between the eyes...
I read this argument a lot, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone address the opposite problem. I assume it's because it doesn't happen; but is that actually correct, or just a common assumption?modern hp cycle fine and even if they fail as a hollow point, your left with a fmj.
Hp ammo expands when the hollow tip fills with soft tissue which in turn with the force applied by the velocity of the bullet, the soft tissue applies hydrolic pressure outwards causing the expansion. Most hollow points for a handgun round will only expand to the bottom of this pre-formed "crater". Faster velocity rounds will expand further but it is a controlled design.I read this argument a lot, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone address the opposite problem. I assume it's because it doesn't happen; but is that actually correct, or just a common assumption?
The question is, what if a JHP bullet expands too much, and doesn't give adequate penetration? It's a possibility, right?
And no, I'm not lobbying for the use of FMJ ammo for SD/HD. I'm just bringing up a point I'm yet to see.
The question is, what if a JHP bullet expands too much, and doesn't give adequate penetration? It's a possibility, right?
And do it, while moving, in low-light, full of adrenaline, wounded, while the bad guy is moving. Mister, I don't know a single thing about you.....but I know you're not that good.