Wa permit legal in Oregon and other states now?

Nope. There is no new Federal law.

I'm just a bill.

Washington doesn't issue a permit anyway.

It's a concealed Pistol License. Very different.

Mainsail said:

Washington doesn't issue a permit anyway.

It's a concealed Pistol License. Very different.

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Mainsail, would you elaborate please? I always thought they were synonymous terms.

Yeah, what's the difference?

Somebody once explained the difference but I don't remember enough of it to faithfully reproduce it.

Some states issue a concealed weapons permit, but here in WA we have a license to carry a concealed pistol, and nothing else. So your 4" folding knife, if concealed, is illegal. There was more to it than just that, and it made me forever stop calling it a permit.

Oh, so some places include knives and other stuff along with the concealed pistol part? Interesting.

It really depends on state law. For example, in some states it is illegal to conceal a weapon (pistol) period. The permit then is a defense to the illegal act. In those states, if a police officer catches sight of your "concealed" pistol/weapon, the officer has reasonable and articulable suspicion to perform a Terry Stop (detain you) and demand to see a permit.

In Washington, it is only illegal to conceal a pistol without a license and open carry is legal without any license. It is also only illegal to have a loaded handgun in a vehicle without a license. So, let's say a police officer sees you exit a vehicle and pull your jacket over your gun. Since it is only illegal to conceal a pistol without a license, the officer must have reasonable and articulable suspicion that you both have a concealed pistol AND that you do not possess a license in order to lawfully detain you because of the gun only.

I don't think the difference between the words "permit" or "license" on the piece of paper really matter, by itself. Although some people might be making the distinction between the two different ways the law is written above: permit allows you to have an affirmative defense to breaking the law, license means it is only illegal to do so without it.

Oh, so some places include knives and other stuff along with the concealed pistol part? Interesting.

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Florida for example issues a "Concealed Weapon Permit" and includes weapons other than handguns. Their website lists:

handguns
electronic weapons or devices
tear gas guns
knives
billies

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In Oregon, it's a Concealed Handgun License, not a Concealed Weapons License.

No, We don't recognize ANY Non-Oregon CHL. (for now) Our state checks Mental health records before issuing our own.

The terminology between the two is a specific distinction to prevent some smartypants from walking around with a pair of 20" Kukri strapped to their kidneys.

The terminology between the two is a specific distinction to prevent some smartypants from walking around with a pair of 20" Kukri strapped to their kidneys.

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Yeah. Think of what a danger that would pose to the public! Two knives? Blood in the streets, I tell you. Glad they make folks stick to nice, safe firearms!

It sure makes me feel better knowing that my chances of being attacked by a "Licensed" samurai are much lower as well.