Taurus 605, beauty only skin deep...

I'm sorry about your Taurus problem, but unfortunately you're far from the only one I've known to have problems with Taurus revolvers

Nice Beretta!
Nice Smith!

Wish I could say nice 605, but in your case not gonna happen.

I have never had a problem with any of my Taurus Revolvers. I have had a lot of large frame .357 and now have a 608. I have Mod 85 and 905 love both of them.

Never had a 605....looked at it once, but liked the Ruger SP101 better for some reason..smooth lines maybe? 101 is just a neat little package.

Any way again nice Smith, hate you had a bad experience with the 605! I would definitely have a conversation with Taurus. It would be nice if you had the serial numbers of both guns.

This is with description on all 605's for sale on net:

A small frame made for the very serious business of self-preservation. Designed for the .357 Magnum, arguably among the best self-protection calibers, this 5 shot in Stainless or Blue Seel is built to the Taurus Zero Tolerance standard. In design, fabrication, fitting and performance, there is simply no tolerance for parts which do not perform as if someone’s life depends on them.

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I really think it is important to let a manufacturer know of there shortcomings or quality issues regardless if you ever look at them again! I held Beretta responsible a couple times...Ruger...Taurus once last year and S&W years ago. All have always responded satisfactory on my issues.

Your issues while on the both, could have probably been addressed under warranty (not what one wants to do - but it is there, and real) but the second one was most irritating and a huge let down!

A Taurus revolver that's crap? Say it ain't so...it is, after all, the Gem of the Taurus Line! No, wait a minute, the Gem is the PT 92/99. What did you buy that old revolver for? Haven't you been hanging around here longer than that? No, that was your first post! That would explain it...and welcome!

I had a Taurus that worked...well, three of them, really. But the holes in the cylinders (I think they're called chambers) were drilled straight through! Dangest thing, probably the reason the gun (or me) couldn't hit the broad side of a barn! I took jacketed bullets and dropped them through them holes and they dropped right on through! I reckon the holes not having throats in them was a good way of avoiding trouble when shooting .38s in a .357, but it wasn't worth it unless the target or bad guy is standing right in front of you!

The Tauruses sure are purty...purtier than those S&W magnums. The S&W stainless guns all look like they've been sandpapered by chimpanzees, but they sure do shoot. Actions are purty good too. Reckon that's why everyone wants all them Federal Reserve Notes for 'em.




This is the real Gem of the Taurus line! Beautiful and they shoot!

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Nice 92 Confederate!

I have the same 92 in AFS ...... Satin Finish! Looks pretty neat actually! My first Rail pistol too!

Realized I could have sent it back to Taurus, however, I am impatient. Plus, with the ability to simply return it to the store, figured that was a pure win.

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The worst thing you could have done is send it to those baboons in Florida. I sent my Tracker back to Taurus with three defects and none of them came back fixed. The gun was covered in black grease from head to toe when it arrived at my door. I called them and they sent me the parts (fixed it myself). What can I say, I'm just a Taurus basher for no reason at all.

Seriously.... I don't know what goes on in that factory in Florida, but I wish I could do it over and send it to the Willy Wonka factory and had Umpa Lumpas do the work.

Oompa loompas? LOL.

A friend of mine has had a 605 stainless for several years, and has, to date, never had any trouble with it. Sorry you had trouble with yours.

That is a good looking S&W. All the DA revolvers I have now are S&W.

Tigerjeebs,

It's near impossible to argue in favor of Taurus quality with the evidence/experience you just presented. As someone said before, unfortunately your not the only consumer who's had a similar experience.

In nearly 45 years of shooting I've owned and shot many different brands of handguns. Out of all these guns only one was a Taurus......I owned it long enough to get it repaired under warranty and sold it at a loss.

Quite simply I just don't trust Taurus handguns. I have had problems with the other brands but they were repaired to my satisfaction and their customer service was outstanding so I still own and shoot them to this day.

Quality is self evident in handguns, you just know it when you pick them up the first time. I believe everyone must learn through experience and develop their preferences over time.
Many Taurus owners have nothing but praise for their brand, I'm just not one of them.

Tigerjeebs said:

Realized I could have sent it back to Taurus, however, I am impatient. Plus, with the ability to simply return it to the store, figured that was a pure win.

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Letting the store deal with it was absolutely the right move. Getting involved in shipping guns back and forth for warranty work is the fastest way to turn a $300 gun into a $450 gun. Even when the good companies like Ruger pay for a UPS/fedex label it still requires doing backflips to meet the driver, unless you are fortunate enough to work from home or have a stay-at-home spouse.

I've been there with Bersa, Taurus and Ruger (twice! can you believe it?), and Ruger is the only one I'll buy again. Other opinions may vary.

Actually, I have fallen in nicely with all the Curmudgeons here who favor much older, lightly used S&Ws. Those seem to be taking over the shelves of my safe these days.

I've got a Taurus PT-22 (from when they first came out, right after the original recall, that is) that has quit working, and I haven't bothered to deal with it since I figure the gun is probably not worth the hassle and expense of invoking the lifetime warranty. I may change my mind this summer when my work schedule frees up a bit. Or not.

Nice S&W by the way.

i had 2 bad ones, won't touch another. even if they work, the timing is such that the cylinder locks up at the same time the hammer drops on the newer ones. not safe in my opinion.

The Model 60 should help you forget the previous troubles.

These threads do sometimes make me feel bad for weregunner and JR47
Not all Taurus revolvers are crap, and I know they get mighty tired of hearing most of us here just piling it on...
and S&W is far from perfect, never was perfect, none of the makers ever were
but I do think your odds for smiling just went up by about 600% with that new 60
(no 47 links to S&Warmed.net required)

do sincerely feel bad for your bad luck
and hoping the far more favorable odds yield the expectations you deserve
(I own a no-dash S&W 60, bought NIB back-when, so am predisposed to believe you now have reason enough to smile)

PS
"I have fallen in nicely with all the Curmudgeons here who favor much older, lightly used S&Ws."
well it's about time... us dirty old Curmugeons need a little love, too, donchaknow !

oldfool(no disrespesct just you're handle)
my experience has been the old and new s&w's are good, but the in-between were iffy, and the old taurus were good but the new REALLY iffy.

My experience mirrors your own hogrdr
(I did get lucky w/ some in-between S&Ws, but there was an element of luck involved, I do not doubt)

caveat emptor with any brand, but I do have higher expectations of some specific brand/vintage/models than others, and inclined to believe that true in every brand there ever was

JR47 is still shooting his dozen assorted Taurus handguns. However, let me give you some more "truths" about gun manufacturers.

I bought a 3" Model 625-3 S&W, new. Checked it over in the store, brought it home, cleaned and lubed it. On the first shot, the cylinder stopped rotating when the trigger was pulled. However, it would rotate freely by hand, while locked in the frame! It took S&W 6 weeks to repair, then return, the gun. Should I trust it?

Bought a brand new Sig P229. Same deal, inspect, clean, lube, head for the range. Between 50 and 75 rounds, the slide cracked. Ok, send it back. 7 weeks later, new slide on gun. By the advice given here, I guess that I can't trust it.

Bought a new HK USP, in .45 ACP. Gun grouped like a 12 ga. cylinder bore 870. At first, HK didn't seem to find that unusual. Finally sent it in, 8 weeks later, back it came, with a new barrel. Checked the gun out, and it was missing the o-ring. Called HK, told them about it, and was informed that "our guns never leave here until they've been thoroughly checked".

New S&W Model 617. Everything looked good, cylinder gap of .004". Less than 50 rounds of CCI Mini-Mag HP in it, and the gun locked up tight. I ended up soaking it overnight in penetrating oil to get the cylinder to open. S&W had it for 6 weeks. Note said that they had replaced the crane, cylinder, and "internal parts".

None of my guns are abused, just used. They are cleaned after use, and inspected.

If you want to, go on the various forums of dedicated firearms, and look at the trouble-shooting pages, there are a lot of them.

Much of the difference is that people who buy S&W, FN, and the likes are quite willing to understand a failed gun, and trust it when it comes back. They don't seem to haunt the Forums, bashing away. You won't find me bashing S&W, Sig, or HK. Nor Taurus, either.

Threads and posts like these are why I didn't seriously consider a Taurus for my first handgun purchase. There are just too many better options available for not much more money.

I bought a Stainless 605 in 94. It was from their custom shop. It had trigger work, ported barrel and upgraded grips.

No timing issues. No accuracy issues. Perfect.

I had a Ruger SP101 and a Taurus 605 and the guy wanted a 357. I traded my Ruger and kept the Taurus. No regrets here. It's 18 years old and it's as good as it was when it came home. I try revolvers at the store before buying them. I check the timing, the action and everything else. No issues with any revolvers that I've acquired, new or used.


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ive had problems with every brand at one time or another way too many to list. but the timing on their new guns concerns me, i have looked at dozens at shows and at shops and they all have that late lock-up. i could easily see the cylinder going past the lock while firing fast

ive had problems with every brand at one time or another way too many to list. but the timing on their new guns concerns me, i have looked at dozens at shows and at shops and they all have that late lock-up. i could easily see the cylinder going past the lock while firing fast

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I was at the LGS today, Saturday, 2/25/2011. The gunsmith there showed me three S&W revolvers. He said that they were 50% of the latest order, and that they were useless, as their timing was crap. So, either we're ALL off on what we regard as proper timing, or just about every revolver out here is now timing late. He said that the other three were "barely better", but that he could sell them.

I suppose that I should go whine about that in every thread here on S&W revolvers?

i wouldn't buy a smith or any other brand that locked up right when the hammer falls, fact is NO ONE should be selling them. i own several late smiths though and none have the late timing. i looked at a lot of taurus last fall because i was going to buy a 5 shot .357. everyone i looked at was timed like that. the stop should drop right before the slot, not exactly into it. if you don't believe its a problem do some research, there are reports of lead shaving where the cylinder gets past the stop when firing. it can't go too far and still hit the primer, but it will shave bullets. very dangerous.

I just got accused of lying, and being a "Taurus basher" in a recent thread (over on The Firing Line Forums) by a couple of people, when I shared my poor experience with Taurus handguns. Nevertheless, I've stopped buying them due to the fact that they seem to be a crap shoot at best. Got tired of shipping new guns back to the factory (instead of trips to the shooting range), and long waits for their return. In contrast I've not had any mechanical issues with any of the S&W, Ruger, Beretta, and Glock handguns that I've purchased (and I've purchased a bunch). We live and learn. Some will be smart enough learn from our mistakes.

if anyone puts* taurus revolver shaving lead* in a google search they will see. report after report. ive had many guns malfunction, but that is a very serious safety issue. don't even want a flamer to lose an eye'

Sorry for your troubles with the new guns.

However, your experience is exactly like mine. I will never spend another cent on anything with Taurus on it...I don't care how good people say they are, I know.

If you mess with the bull, you stand a very good chance of getting the horns...