AR-10

bender01 said:

the ar-10s get uppers in 5.56/223?

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One of the reasons that the .308 is a separate platform, rather than just a different upper for an AR15 is that the .308 round won't fit in the AR15 mag well. I suppose the 5.56 would fit in the larger AR10 mag well, but I don't think I have seen an AR10 upper in 5.56.

The RR/308 is $1250 naked. The Palmetto State Armory 5.56 is 650!
Any other 308 AR-10s that arent custom? Just NIB?

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From what I have seen, $1250 is a pretty good deal for an AR10. They all tend to run noticeably more expensive than the AR15s and I don't think I have ever seen any "economy" AR10s like you can find with AR15s.

Perhaps someone with more experience in the AR10 platform may have better info for you but I don't think you will find what you are looking for.

We dont shoot alot because its expensive to us

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That statement should cause you to reconsider the 7.62 AR-pattern rifle. They are more expensive to acquire, more expensive to shoot, and any 7.62 specific bits (like magazines) you might need tend to be more expensive too.

It's kind of like the "Cheap, Fast, Good: pick two" thing. "Inexpensive, AR, 7.62: Pick two."

Any other 308 AR-10s that arent custom?

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Well, there is only ONE AR-10, and that's Armalite. There are a few AR-pattern .308's, though. DPMS, RRA, Stoner.

The DPMS and RRA are going to be the cheapest starting at ~$950. Armalites run in the $1,300-$3,000 range, and Stoners start at $4k.

I'm partial to Armalite, but generally hear good things about the DPMS. I certainly wouldn't turn down a Stoner, but I work for a living, so $4,000+ is a lot of money, and I haven't seen anything that suggests an SR-25 would fit my needs better than my Armalite. Besides, only Armalites have 25 round mags; Everything else is stuck at 20.

Just continue doing research, find out if a DPMS LR-308/RRA will fit your needs or if maybe it's worth a little more to you for the Armalite or another more expensive make.

I just got another Armalite AR10A2 (I like that configuration) from Buds gun shop. $1245, no tax, free shipping to your FFL and it's yours. I love Armalites, the only real ARs (AR stands for Armalite). not way expensive like some manufacutrers out there, but good shooters. you can get a flat top version for optics for same price too. depends on what state your in as far as sales tax. here in Texas, I orderd with an electronic check and a week later I had the weapon, I hate credit cards. you cant go wrong with Armalite, a carbine would be great, my full size rifle with a full magzine can get a tad heavy,

Look at a 6.8 for an upper, it will fit your AR-15 and uses the same mags.

Jim

One of the things I like about the AR-10 is its incredible versatility (if you have the money to spend.) I really lament the loss of my DPMS AR-10 in .243 with a Leupold scope. The .243 can be used on a lot of big game, but is still flat shooting enough for varmints. Since it's the same case, several companies make complete uppers for them in 260 Rem and 7.62 Nato/308 Win. With a .308 I'd go after anything in North America.

Even better is that there's a company called Accuracy Systems that makes all kinds of goodies for your AR-10. Want an upper in 7mm-08? They've got them. Want one in .300 Savage? .35 Whelen? .257 Roberts? .358 Winchester? .300 Short Action Ultra mag? 6.5 Creedmore? .284 Winchester? They can make you one.

Here's where they won me: A .450 Marlin in a semi-auto AR-10 with a 1MOA guarantee with factory ammo. Seriously? Man, that's so cool I can't figure out how to express it. My Coyote gun, my Mulie gun, my trophy elk gun, and my close quarters moose/brown bear gun al in the same gun with pulling a couple of pins and exchanging the upper.

Like I said, if you have the money.

308 is definitely not an inexpensive round to shoot, if you're set on the ar platform for hunting, you're just going to have to suck it up. 223 isn't an ideal hunting round, and even at 223 prices an ar isn't economical to shoot. Stag offers a 6.8 hunter model, which, at 7 or so pounds over the rra's no scope/bipod/standard grip 12 pounder is a much better option, plus I think the last time I saw it, I believe it's the model 7 hunter, it was under 900. Ammo won't be as plentiful as either 223 or 308, but that's what telephones and phone books or google is for, for a younger hunter weight is going to be an issue. My honest opinion, get a 270 bolt action and forget the ar in a hunting situation. Then get a 22 ar with the money you save and have fun and train with that.

Top rifle, pic on the red chair, S&W M&P 15-22, SOOOOOO much fun, and so cheap to shoot
Truck bed pic, RRA 308, no lie it weighs like 16 pounds, definitely not hunting anything I can't see from my truck with that thing.

Here's a good FAQ to answer questions.

There is one 7.62 AR that well handle both 7.62 and 5.56. The new Colt SP901.

We've got AR-10 pattern rifles now made with Mega MA-TEN receivers. Yep, they're expensive, and not as easily maneuvered as a nice light AR-15 carbine, but if you want that extra oomph, they're a nice alternative.

the AR10 is a larger frame/platform, I dont know how many short actions will fit this larger frame even if the .308 is considered a short action.. compared to the AR10, the AR15 is smaller and will take some homework to build what you are looking for.

You can not go wrong with the Armalite AR10a2 or a4. Have had mine for approx eight years now. I do have a 338Federal upper for the old girl 308 for Caribou and 338 for moose. Mil-surp ball ammo for fun.

300WSM (whisper) is another one i have seen on an AR10.

Jorg said:

That statement should cause you to reconsider the 7.62 AR-pattern rifle. They are more expensive to acquire, more expensive to shoot, and any 7.62 specific bits (like magazines) you might need tend to be more expensive too.

It's kind of like the "Cheap, Fast, Good: pick two" thing. "Inexpensive, AR, 7.62: Pick two."

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100% correct

I would look into a substitute AR-15 caliber such as the 300AAC etc.

I guess if the wieght doesnt bother you ignore this but i hauled my 16 inch dmps around for a deer season a few years back and wouldnt do it again. There fricking heavy and get heavier as the day wears on. For a deer hunting gun id much rather take a 6.8 on an ar15 platform. Its just as flat shooting. It may not be quite as powerful but it will get the job done out to 250 yards at least on deer and weights a couple lbs less. I dont have a 6.8 but do deer hunt occasionaly with my 762x39 ar and it too does well out to 200 yard. Dont get me wrong i do like my ar10. Its probably one of the most accurate rifles i own of any kind. Its not a bad hunting gun out of a blind but this old man aint humping around in the woods with one again.