Wanting .22 New Revolver

Tomcat47 said:

Sorry chiccarones .....

I meant I had 2 Double Action revolvers listed as choices..Taurus/SP101 the Taurus being a Convertible!
The Ruger SA-Single-Six and Single Ten...the six being a Convertible as well.

2 Double action
2 Convertible

My Bad!

Right now I have .22 autos...traded my revolvers off a short time ago!...Now regretting it! I had a single -six and a Taurus 94 and wish I still had them!

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Gotcha!

I admit I like the versatility and potential of the Taurus since it is the only double action convertible I know of. I wish Taurus would lighten it up by removing the full barrel underlug, which I think is unnecessary on a .22 LR/.22 Mag handgun.

I do have a Ruger Single Six convertible which an awesome gun to fire .22 Mag out of, but if I were sticking to .22LR only I'd personally pick the 8-shot Ruger SP101 from your list.

ArchAngelCD said:

I can't get behind the SP101 because it's too heavy and I hate the triggers on all SP101's.

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I can understand a preference in triggers, but the weight is not an a problem with the SP101 in .22LR in my opinion.

The lightest weight Single Six I can find on Ruger's website is 32 oz. The weight of the SP101 in .22 LR is listed as 30 oz. Since the OP is looking at stainless, the lightest single action rimfire Ruger is the Single Ten at a listed 38 oz.

Not counting a Bearcat, which is not in the poll.

...you can unload the empties of a D/A a heck of a lot faster.

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True and conceded but reloading closes the gap.

Without the aid of speedloaders, you can't reload a d/a any faster than you can a s/a.

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I've owned both, can reload a swing out cylinder quite a bit quicker. I dump all 6 at once, grap rounds three at a time from the bulk pack and drop 'em in. Single actions require ONE at a tiiiiimmmmmmeeeee. However, I really don't care about reload speed. I ain't the guy that loads all 300 of his magazines before the range trip. My range costs me 30 bucks a year, not charged by the minute. I take my sweet time and enjoy myself. Hell, I shoot a lot of cap and ball, lately. I can fire up a bulk pack of .22 with a single action in the time it takes to reload a cap and ball revolver a few times. Who the hell cares about reload time? Not me.

Who the hell cares about reload time?

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I do, because I want to be "good" with a single action. I've shot the snot out of K-22's and single actions for 25yrs and the single action hands down loads faster. You have to deliberately insert each cartridge into the chambers of a DA. With a single action, all you have to do is drop the cartridge into the loading port and it finds its way home. You grab three at a time and insert them, I grab all five (or six) at once and drop them in. Your lack of speed is in your technique.

I do, because I want to be "good" with a single action. I've shot the snot out of K-22's and single actions for 25yrs and the single action hands down loads faster.

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BS....but what ever.

I insert 2 or 3 at a time in my DA. I don't 'have" to insert one at a time. I can hold three in my fingers and load 'em all. I can also walk and chew gum at the same time. Also, I hit an ejector and BAM, they're all out at once.

If I'm really after reload speed, I go to my autos.

BS....but what ever....If I'm really after reload speed, I go to my autos.

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No need to get defensive. I reckon that's one way to look at it. You can call BS on 25yrs of actual, practical experience, tens upon tens of thousands of rounds, including 2000-3000rds a month over the last several years if you like but it's YOUR technique that is lacking. I've been working hard at proficiency, meanwhile you "take my sweet time and enjoy myself". So the difference in intent is obvious. I don't care how many you load at once, unless you're doing all six with a speedloader. You still have to deliberately insert them. I can load an SA without even looking at it and it has little bearing on speed.

Time yourself and see. The DA ejects quicker and the SA reloads quicker but I doubt you'll see much difference overall.

Either way there's no reason to get into a heated argument over it.

If I'm really after reload speed, I go to my autos.

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How that's relevant I have no idea.

On the speed of reloading thing. I've never figured out why people are in such a hurry to shoot up their ammo.

As far as the reload speed issue goes, I think the d/a gets the nod. I do think that you shouldn't bet against an experienced s/a shooter vs an inexperienced d/a shooter in getting 12 rds downrange from an empty start without speedloaders........anyway....not sure if that helps the OP choose a revolver, but my $.02 anyway.

Concerning the unload and reload discussion, I guess its a good thing Ruger doesn't make a break open double action rimfire. Although, that would be interesting.

the ruger single is just a sweet gun, and for the money how can you go wrong....but I am bias otherwise I wouldn't own so many

CraigC said:

I do, because I want to be "good" with a single action. I've shot the snot out of K-22's and single actions for 25yrs and the single action hands down loads faster. You have to deliberately insert each cartridge into the chambers of a DA. With a single action, all you have to do is drop the cartridge into the loading port and it finds its way home.

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Are you talking loading speed in a centerfire SA revolver or a rimfire SA revolver? My Single Six's loading gate opening is much larger than the chamber diameter and not really aligned since the small chamber is spaced away from the base pin a bit. When I try to use it as a funnel (my word for your described technique) the cylinder and the gun has to be wiggled and jiggled for the rimfire to find its way in.

I can definitely see your funnel technique working very well on a larger caliber where the chamber is closer in size to the loading gate opening.

As a side note, a new Ruger Single Six tends to have tight chambers. After only a few cylinders fired, not all ammo will just drop in. Some of the chambers will need a push to seat it all the way home. Of course, some chamber polishing could help that.

Are you talking loading speed in a centerfire SA revolver or a rimfire SA revolver?

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Both but it is much easier with an Old Model Ruger than a New Model. You can't do that with a large frame rimfire like the USFA 12/22. Because the loading port is sized for a .45Colt.

I've never figured out why people are in such a hurry to shoot up their ammo.

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We all do what we do for different reasons.

Everyone has their opinions about single action vs double action reload time with 22 revolvers. I personally prefer double actions simply because it is easier to dump out the empties and begin reloading.

I don't shoot most of my DA revolvers DA only for the most part, so from a shooting stand point I have no preference.

If I were getting a single action today, it would be a Ruger Single Ten. If I were buying a double action 22, it would most likely be a S&W M617 or M63. But of your double action choices, it would be the new Ruger SP-101 in 22. So, I did not respond to your poll choices as I am a fence straddler.

When I want to shoot a .22 quickly, I load up one of my .22 semiauto rifles or my Ruger Mark 2 and let fly.
BUT, normally, when I shoot a .22 I shoot slow fire just like with my cap and ball.

I can also load up my Rossi .22 pump, and just hold the trigger back while stroking the forend. It will really spit them out.

I have 3 .22 revolvers/pistols, if I didn't have these already, I'd go for the SP 101. I have the 101 in .357 and love it, they aren't, in my opinion heavy at all, just choice I guess.

A Single Ten would make a great choice.

I voted for the SP101 because I want one, too!

I've got a Single-Six convertible and love it, but I'm looking to get into the DA game, too.

This is something I have been contemplating, with nearly the same list - replace the Taurus with the Bearcat and there you are.

I like the Single Six convertible for the extra cylinder. I don't like that it's really a .22 WMR gun with a .22 LR cylinder.

I like the Single Ten for the extra rounds, but I don't like the big ugly front sight.

I really like the Bearcat. It is a quality plinker in classic single-action configuration.

I really like the SP101. It is a modern and affordable incarnation of the classic kit gun, as good a plinker as the Bearcat with greater utility.

If I can stop buying rifles long enough to save a few pennies for a new pistol, I will probably buy the SP101.

I really like the older sp101s, but no way am I buying one with that goofy fiber optic piece of crap for a front sight. ever.

I like the Single Ten for the extra rounds, but I don't like the big ugly front sight.

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The sights are easily and inexpensively changed. The front sight is held in place with a single screw.

CraigC, I do not lack experience, myself. I started shooting revolvers in the mid 60s. I got my first centerfire (excluding cap and ball) in the mid 70s. My first revolver (other than shooting my uncle's K22) was a Hawes .22 with an extra magnum cylinder. I own 26 handguns now, autos, DA revolvers, and single action.

So, pull the "expert" card if you must. Moot anyway unless we could make a range trip together with a timer.

I own 26 handguns now...

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I'm not trying to "pull the expert card" or sound elitist. I own that many single actions alone, not to mention nine DA's and ten autos. I've been working diligently for years to build my skill with a single action. I don't race motorcycles, play golf, go fishing, build hot rods, buy a new vehicle every two years, drink beer, smoke cigarettes, chase loose women, raise children or have a half dozen other things to occupy my time. Shooting is what I do, along with wasting time on the internet talking about it and having meaningless arguments like this one. I'm not trying to brag, pound my chest or inflate my ego but you 'may' consider for a moment that I 'may' know what I'm talking about. Rather than passing judgment based on age.....like everybody else does. That is, before dragging the thread into the mud with cries of "BS".

I am no expert, but I do have some good experience with a wide range of 22 handguns. I seldom say this, but I own way more than 26 just in 22LR. But that means nothing really if you don't shoot them and learn about them. The Taurus in the other ongoing thread sort of gets me thinking... I own no Taurus handguns. Shot them, but don't own one.

4 of the last 5 handguns purchased have been 22's.