New Mosin Nagant

Kachok said:

How tight have you gotten your Mosin to group at 100? I never could get the blasted things to shoot better the 2 MOA.

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2MOA with what ammo?

travisd said:

Thanks for the advice caribou. And how exactly did you finish your stock LJ. Only way I've ever done is some spray on poly on an old .22. If I were to redo it I would try and do it like my dads old 30-40 krag. Would like something like that for it have no idea what exactly it is but its real nice

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Buy some paint thinner or wood stripping solution and wipe down the stock with it. You'll need a couple rags, one will get pretty full of shellac and Cosmo. Then let it dry.

Heat the stock with a hair dryer to get the remaining Cosmo out of the wood, or you can wrap it in paper towels, put it in a black trash bag and let it sit in the sun for a few hours.

You'll wipe the Cosmo off, and then you move on to smoothing the wood. You can either use fine sand paper, or a bone, which is a technique called "Boning the Stock". I've never used a bone, but I have seen a guy do it to his rifle and was impressed.

Get rid of all the dust, make sure your whole stock is free of debris, and take an old t-shirt, your favorite color stain, and get to work. Wipe it on, giving a generous amount, wait about 5-10 minutes, and wipe it off, letting it sit at least 8hours until next coat. I usually repeat this step about four or five times. Sometimes more.

Then let the stain cure for a day or two, and then I use Tung Oil as a finisher. Wipe it on, let it sit for a few minutes, and buff it off. I do this about 6-7 times, but you have to wait a day between each application.

Other than that, YMMV.


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Well, I don't want to burst your bubble, but "collecting Mosins" is a lot like collecting grass clippings. I fully support your effort, and enthusiasm, but there are 17 million of them floating around, and cases of them available. I have several of the "stock" ones and one that we built into a benchrest rifle. It shoots inside a dime at 100 and is a 1MOA gun @ 300. I haven't shot that particular rifle further than that, but it's a nifty one. I put up some pics of it on another thread a couple of weeks ago, but Mosins are what they are.

Have fun and experiment with them. They are great shooters, and if you figure out how to mount something other than a scout scope on them, they are very accurate. The better the optics and better eye relief, you'll find that they can be benchrest quality. Then, with a little "home cooking" you can cook up your own loads and really dial them in.

WT

It only takes a little bit of time and effort.


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You can use a flat head screwdriver to spread the bands a little. That will help get the handguards off. I learned this too late and scratched the finish on mine too.

I'd say if your area isn't too humid, you could probably wait until you got home and a little later that night. And yes, scrub the bolt-face too, you'll notice a ring around the firing pin hole.


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Clean it as soon as you can find time to give it proper attention.A proper cleaning can be over in about 15 minutes,and should be 'routine' with any ammo you use, weather corrosivly primed or not.

Lotsa guys wipe the bore clean while the barrel is still hot from shooting, some do it at the end of the day, Like me, and rust really has not ever been a problem for me, but the Arctic is not a humid place.

I spray a bunch of windex down my barrel and on the bolt, then follow that with some WD-40 all while still at the range. Then I give it a "real" cleaning when I get home.

I got this technique from Box'o'Truth.

The bolt should NOT be stiff or hard to work and you should NOT have to grease the surfaces to make it operate properly. Some of these 91/30's have ill-fitting bolts so that's just the way it is though. A Mosin bolt should be loose and almost sloppy going in, then lock down after being fired.

For the stock, the originals had a shellack but I usually use hand rubbed BLO because I'm used to it.

The Russian Mosin has a stiff bolt, horrible safety, and mediocre trigger. But they're sturdy and well built. Priced to sell, these Mosins have become wildly popular within the deer woods.

This photo was sent to me by a friend in Nebraska.

TR

The Mosin is a 'Man's rifle" and the safty is very positive as well as locks the bolt firmly down, so simple, a Peasent could do it. Lower the but to your inner elbow of the right arm while grasping the rifle in both hands. with the butt in your inner elbow, grasp the cocking knob on the back of the cocking piece. Then give it a pull, and you will find that your swelling bicepe will double your safty pull and twist into a very easy motion when practised a couple tiimes.
Like Peasants everywhere in Rissia, the rifle toteing ones with big bicepts and hairy legs had no problem applying the saftey or carrying the rifle all day long, just like the men.

If your Mosin's bolt is hard to open, CLEAN it. Scrub that chamber proper with a solvent soaked wire brush of chamber size. The milsurp US M-14 ratchet type chamber brushes are AWSOME....and so is a 20 gauge shotgun brush....and see what happens. Use clean ammo and keep it clean.

Often, laquerd ammo gets bounced about and the laquer worn or chipped and rust can set into the case, if the bullets have bounced around awhile under the pick ups seat or in a bag in a hunters pocket, so keep an eye on what your feeding your rifle.

As far as how soon you need to clean it goes, consider the thing is a battle rifle. You think everybody immediately sat down in the field & cleaned their bore when the shooting was over for the moment?
It could be hours & it could be days before those rifles were cleaned.
Corrosive ammunition isn't going to rust out a barrel in 45 minutes. If it were that damaging, it would not have been used.

On mine, I've shot during the heat of the day & waited several hours till it cooled off enough outside to sit on the back patio & clean 'em.
No need to panic over getting to it.
Denis

Here we go again. You bought a battle rifle. It was made to kill a man with open sights at fairly short ranges. It is not a target rifle and was not made to be. Two inch groups are fantastic. Good shooter good rifle and good ammo.

And good golly.
Denis

T.R. FWIW, my Mosins have accounted for 3 more whitetails since that pic was taken. Two bucks and a doe. Email me for a pic of last year's doe if curious. I think i still have it.

As far as how soon you need to clean it goes, consider the thing is a battle rifle. You think everybody immediately sat down in the field & cleaned their bore when the shooting was over for the moment?

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Uh, you do know that's what Sergeant's are for in all Army's don't you.