Applying for Handgun Ownership

As opposed to the virulently anti gun Obama, eh?

Click to expand...

The Canadian gun regulations are way worse than even California's. If the Canadian government said turn in all your guns tomorrow, they'd have no constitution to save them from it.

As opposed to the virulently anti gun Obama, eh?

Click to expand...

Still paranoid after four years?

OP, I think the Glock 19 would be a great choice: 10 rounds and actually very accurate for a shorter pistol. Let us know what you decide!

As opposed to the virulently anti gun Obama, eh?

Click to expand...

Still paranoid after four years?

Click to expand...

Ummm...considering how incumbent presidential thinking changes from first term to second term, yes, we should be paranoid!

Snag said:

Nice scores on the tests. I hope you get approved.



Yes.....in California of course. I'm not familiar with all the intricacies but suffice it to say you pretty much can't have an AR unless it's got a bullet button mag release. Big reason why I'll be buying an M1A instead.

Click to expand...

I purchased my M1A a few years ago and it specifically states that "this gun is not legal in California if purchased post ?1998?" (or some year close to that).

I am not sure I understand the rational for restricting the number of rounds a magazine will hold. A criminal will not respect any law including the ones that say they can not posess a firearm. What makes a public offical think that by restricting the law abiding population from owning equipment that will provide them more protection that it will in anyway reduce criminal activity. And as to reducing any crazies , they will just use multable weapons with multable magazines (10 rounds or not).

Why make laws that only helps criminals???'

Point of fact , NY,NY: Chicago, IL: Los Angles, CA: Washington, D.C., the toughest gun laws in the country that have no effect at all on crime.

Jim

Just a political statement.... you DO have the right anywhere on Earth, but your government is violating it. Hopefully that will get better.

45crittergitter said:

Just a political statement.... you DO have the right anywhere on Earth, but your government is violating it. Hopefully that will get better.

Click to expand...

True that. The greatest misconception about our Constitiution, and rights in general, is that people think rights are granted by government, when in truth, our Constitution is a document which recognizes and guarantees, within the U.S., certain universal rights common to all human beings.

THe idea that the right to protect oneself is a privelege granted by rulers is a completely foreign concept to a free person.

When guns are outlawed only outlaws and the wealthy elite will have guns.

I'm a Southpaw too, so something with ambi controls is nice. Or something that isn't too difficult to operate the controls with the left hand.

This is more of which one to get FIRST. The others will come afterwards! So I guess, what is easiest to learn and maintain for a total handgun newbie?

Click to expand...

An older gun that fits your requirements perfectly (I am LH also) is the HK P7 - but its manual of arms is unlike no other - completely ambidextrous simply squeeze the cocking device on the grip and ready to shoot, release and it is totally safe. Mags only hold 8 so you are good to go regarding mag capacity......VERY accurate

Warp said:

What I wonder is...what will you do with that handgun? (other than enjoy it and shoot it at the range like everybody else, I understand, just asking from a strictly utilitarian/practical perspective)

To me, personally, 95% of the usefulness of a handgun is the ability to take it with you on your person (usually concealed).

Click to expand...

Some folks just have different ideas. To me 95% of a guns usefulness is enjoyment. If I had your mindset I would probably only own 2 guns. As it is the guns I buy and research typically haze zero thought put into carrying.

I also enjoy small guns with zero intention of carrying them

Wow! Didn't think any Obama supporters visited this site until I read #42.

GlackAttack said:

Wow I didn't know Canada restricted firearms. Kindof spoils my plans to move there if our dumbass voting population votes in Romney and Ryan.. I wouldn't listen to the discouraging guy talking like handguns are only good for carry. They are a ton of fun, I rarely feel like carrying them myself, I'm more in it for the sport. Go with you're gut, get what you want, and have fun!

Click to expand...

Just thought you should know that the 2012 Democratic National platform called for a few "common sense" improvements like reinstating the AWB and closing that pesky "gun show loophole" that they've been working against for 30 years. So if Obama wins, the USA's gun laws will become alot more restrictive if Dems have anything to say about it.

Here's a quote from the Dem's National platform (a direct quote from it that hasn't been edited in any way):


Firearms. We recognize that the individual right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We understand the terrible consequences of gun violence; it serves as a reminder that life is fragile, and our time here is limited and precious. We believe in an honest, open national conversation about firearms. We can focus on effective enforcement of existing laws, especially strengthening our background check system, and we can work together to enact commonsense improvements – like reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole – so that guns do not fall into the hands of those irresponsible, law-breaking few.

The fear is not just what Obama will do; it is what Congress will do. Obama cannot exceed statute at this time. If the Democrats get a full majority in both houses, then there will be more gun control since there will be no political consequence for Obama.

These people in government have no compunction about violating the Constitution. The President has already ordered the death of an American citizen overseas without trial.* If he will murder (killing without due process) Americans, then gun control is not even something he considers of any moral significance. It is just another avenue for more power. The only thing holding them back is the potential to lose the next Presidential and Congressional elections.


* It does not matter how obnoxious that man was. The Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights were violated. This will become a habit under NDAA 2011 where they will "disappear" Americans. They just ruled that no warrants are needed to gather information "that will not be used". Think about how that can be abused. This is not paranoia; these are laws passed on record.