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This IS AMERICA ! So, in 2012, that means a cheap pump made in China or Malaysia or Thailand and sold by the discount big box stores.
This IS AMERICA ! So, in 2012, that means a cheap pump made in China or Malaysia or Thailand and sold by the discount big box stores.
That may be true in terms of the number of individuals involved - maybe - and many of those hunters and tacticoolers may be using 870s. But the sheer number of shotshells being used in the Clay sports take it out of the "niche" category. How long does it take the average hunter to use four boxes of shells? When I shoot Trap, I will shoot 100 in an hour. In addition, many of those 870s are pressed into clay service once or twice a year....for most (maybe all) that limited use will result in more shooting than their whole season.Clays shooters might argue, but they are vastly outnumbered by hunters and tacticool shooters. Clay shooting is a niche market
Maybe for the gun, a niche market.
How long does it take the average hunter to use four boxes of shells?
Clays shooters might argue, but they are vastly outnumbered by hunters and tacticool shooters. Clay shooting is a niche market
There's nothing wrong with the pump, but to me, it is more like a jeep - yes it is versatile and can be used for a lot of things, but it isn't always the best choice for everything
I would argue that clay shooters outnumber tacticool shooters by a large margin and are part of the large number of hunters. While the venerable pump is a great "jack of all trades", when it comes to targets, upland or waterfowl hunting, there are various types that are better suited to the specific task. Even in some of the three-gun and similar games, the semi typically is called upon for the serious competitor
There's nothing wrong with the pump, but to me, it is more like a jeep - yes it is versatile and can be used for a lot of things, but it isn't always the best choice for everything
It's a bit of a stretch to declare there are more hunters and tacticool shooters simply because the 870 has outsold other shotguns. It has been on the market longer, is less expensive and for the first half of its life was well represented in target shooting.And, the popularity of clay shooting would explain why the 870 has outsold all other shotguns in America, let alone if you toss in the 500? Between those two, you don't even need to consider the rest of the pump gun world, you're likely looking at more sales than autos and O/Us combined.
I would consider myself primarily a clay shooter but hunt and have an HD gun. I've also owned more 870s than any other gun. Many of us don't fit into the neat little categories and don't participate in one element of shotgunning to the exclusion of all others.
what he said. it the true jack of all trades as far as shotguns go.Can't think of anything other than the Remington 870.
How many shooters who own 870s also own other brands and types of shotguns?
When the 870 patent runs out -soon I'd guess- I wonder if another mfg. will make a quality copy?
My 500 is smooth as silk, but it's been worked every duck season for 20 years.
I prefer 'em for the ergos. 870s just are not lefty friendly and I really like the tang safety even if I were a righty.