5.56 and .223 supplies are nonexistent
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JustinJ
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I don't believe an ammo ban is a reaslistic concern. It sucks that you can't shoot now but just be glad you have the most important item, the gun itself.
Reloadron
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Guess it all depends on how we define expensive. Shooting overall is not an inexpensive hobby or pastime. The cost is less than some hobbies and exceeds others. As to ammo, other than idiots on ArmsList asking a buck a round the price with regular retailers has pretty much gone unchanged. Granted if you don't have any you will have to wait to get it but the retail cost has not gone up much to speak of.
Also, compared to many high end rifles the cost of an AR type rifle was considerably less, unless of course you want to compare an AR type rifle to a Mosin Nagant.
Ron
Fair? hahahahahahahaha ha. Ha. So what would be fair?
This is America, buddy. You snooze you lose.
No, they haven't gone unchanged.
They are out of stock on everything.
Now, if you have a link to a reputable retailer selling M193 for $340 shipped (case of 1,000 rounds), that is in stock, your statement might be correct. Otherwise...no
murphys_law
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Unchanged here, also some in stock at a few places....
Can you point me to unchanged prices on 5.56?
zxcvbob
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Life isn't fair and never has been. But that is no excuse for mocking the guy who got screwed. That's what I was getting at.
zxcvbob
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blarby
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Well, I must say that .223 is a new beast for me.
Wasn't gonna do it, till I woke up not too long ago and realized I was quite possibly staring down the last chance to get one.
So, I got one.
Immediately after that, I began assembling components........ Braa- bout 600 pieces, give or take, 5k primers, powder........ yepp, now comes the hard part. I bought the last two boxes of 55 gr FMJ anywhere around for $13 on monday. Some of the bizarre types, odd weights, and BTHP's are still available starting at $16+ a box, but I think I'll hold on those.
Thats the report from JC, anyway !
My closest bi-mart still has PMC bronze for $7.50/ box- same as before the drama. Oh- and a 5 box buy limit, with clerks who know who you are
Wasn't gonna do it, till I woke up not too long ago and realized I was quite possibly staring down the last chance to get one.
So, I got one.
Immediately after that, I began assembling components........ Braa- bout 600 pieces, give or take, 5k primers, powder........ yepp, now comes the hard part. I bought the last two boxes of 55 gr FMJ anywhere around for $13 on monday. Some of the bizarre types, odd weights, and BTHP's are still available starting at $16+ a box, but I think I'll hold on those.
Thats the report from JC, anyway !
My closest bi-mart still has PMC bronze for $7.50/ box- same as before the drama. Oh- and a 5 box buy limit, with clerks who know who you are
My closest bi-mart still has PMC bronze for $7.50/ box- same as before the drama. Oh- and a 5 box buy limit, with clerks who know who you are
$375 + tax for a case of PMC bronze .223 is pretty expensive. Before the drama (actually, right after the election, even) you could order a case of that for $336 shipped.
That bi-mart deal isn't bad for today, since it is in stock...but a 100 round limit...kinda takes it off the table
Reloadron
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Warp, what I said was that the prices have gone pretty much unchanged. Somewhere earlier I also mentioned that many retailers were taking orders but you would have to wait. I also stated in either this or a similar thread that depending on what pending legislation does if passed it would not surprise me to see certain bullets eliminated.
The reason the shelves are bare was panic buying. Eventually the supply chain will replenish. As this happens many will continue to buy as quick as it is stocked. Back Ordered will be the new normal. To some extent the fear began when Obama was reelected. The tragedy in CT merely iced it.
Cabela's on back order is selling 55 grain Remington for 299 for 800 rounds bulk or about .38 a round. About the same as it was a month ago.
Ron
If it's out of stock, it's out of stock. If you can't get it, it isn't really available.
How long will that backorder take?
BTW: $0.38 per round for .223 is expensive. After the election (yes, after) I got brass case .223 for $0.33 per round...shipped!
How long will that backorder take?
BTW: $0.38 per round for .223 is expensive. After the election (yes, after) I got brass case .223 for $0.33 per round...shipped!
I see how some may be worried a little about .223 going away as well as 7.62x39. I don't see why they feel 308 is suddenly going to be gone. It just seem really unlikely as many hunting rifles are chambered in .223, .308, (not sure on the 7.62, but wouldn't surprise me).
I don't think the cartridges are going anywhere, and I don't think people think that either.
But they might get more expensive, or be harder to find as a result of increased demand
Think about how much .308 hunting rounds bought by the 20 round box cost compared to foreign surplus 7.62x51
But they might get more expensive, or be harder to find as a result of increased demand
Think about how much .308 hunting rounds bought by the 20 round box cost compared to foreign surplus 7.62x51
black_powder_Rob
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Well the ammo is hard to find right now, but as others have said it will be back again. The manufactures will ramp up production to meet current demand.
As for stocking up, well I only have one .223 and it is a single shot break action that I use for hunting so my need for rounds is not as great as others. Currently I have about 4 rounds of brass soft points and about 70 rounds steel fmj. They should hold me till the ammo manus catch up. With all that said though if i spot a box of ammo that are SP's and 55-62gr I will definatley be picking them up.
As for stocking up, well I only have one .223 and it is a single shot break action that I use for hunting so my need for rounds is not as great as others. Currently I have about 4 rounds of brass soft points and about 70 rounds steel fmj. They should hold me till the ammo manus catch up. With all that said though if i spot a box of ammo that are SP's and 55-62gr I will definatley be picking them up.
Reloadron
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My last good deal on .223 was Federal from Gander Mountain on Thanksgiving Day. Normally about .39 a round then occasionally on sale about .35 a round and on Thanksgiving Day it was $299 for a case of 1,000 rounds including the can. Looking back I should have gotten two or more.If it's out of stock, it's out of stock. If you can't get it, it isn't really available.
How long will that backorder take?
BTW: $0.38 per round for .223 is expensive. After the election (yes, after) I got brass case .223 for $0.33 per round...shipped!
As to availability? I don't much care as I can load a few thousand if I need them. Hell, during the winter I don't shoot much outside, mostly indoor range and shooting .223 at 25 yards is not very enjoyable or entertaining. Anyhow, I never said the stuff was available and for those of us well stocked or who can load it's no big deal. Order it now and I don't care if it comes in April as it will arrive with better outdoor shooting weather.
Ron
KevininPa
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Really sucks if you have a .223 that isn't an AR
Those of us with pumps and bolts don't usually keep large quantities on hand. At least I don't (though I do have something else that I'm "bulked" for!). I'm thinking about seeing my 'smith about sleeving my Rem 7615 down to .222.
Those of us with pumps and bolts don't usually keep large quantities on hand. At least I don't (though I do have something else that I'm "bulked" for!
). I'm thinking about seeing my 'smith about sleeving my Rem 7615 down to .222.trickyasafox
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I wish I had bought more primers. Plenty of rifle primers, but I need small pistol and they are AWOL by me. Thought I had another sleeve put away, but I was mistaken.
Anyone old enough to buy a gun now should have been at least a little aware about what happened after the first Obonzo election. So yeah, they should have stocked up at least some. If you were thinking about buying a gun why on earth did you wait until after the election in the first place? It took 2 years to completely get over the problems after that election. Why would they not come back and get worse? Now Obonzo doesn't need to worry about reelection. Just like he told Putin - now he can do a lot more.
I stocked up before the first election on any ammo for weapons covered by the first AWB. Turned out I should have stocked up even more. I didn't make that mistake this time. I have a good supply for every firearm I own. It's all sitting on my boat just waiting for the need to come up - or for the boat to sink whichever comes first.
I also stockpiled brass even though I don't reload. Once fired brass will bring a good bit of money at some point. And who knows. I may decide to learn to roll my own.
I guess the young guys deserve a break when it comes to forward thinking. But let this be a lesson to them. Don't ever trust a lefty. Don't trust the media either although they are pretty much the same thing except that some of the so called right wing press has gone off the deep end on the left side of the pool. And look! Gee I guess it was the right thing to do. Funny how that works. It will get worse too.
I think an awful lot of 14 year olds don't pay a lot of attention to politics...or the stock of firearms in gun stores.
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Not totally true Warp. I was 14 when the first AWB took place. Dad saying "this is why I always told you to never vote for Dems" while standing in the lgs is still fresh in my mind. So are the crazy prices that AR's and AK's were going for. My dad has every firearm and all the ammo he will ever need. He picked them up the first month the ban was over, I learned a lot from him. I bought ahead just like he did
That probably isn't typical.
Like I said..."many" 14 year olds would not have that experience.
But it sounds like you got started of on the right foot!
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