My Senator's response to my email.

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Thank you for expressing your views about firearms legislation.
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As a United States Senator, I took an oath to defend the Constitution. The Second Amendment makes clear that Americans have the right to own guns, and the Supreme Court over time has given meaning to this right.
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When our children and families are no longer safe at our schools, in our malls, and in our movie theaters, then we as a country must take action. The shocking numbers of public shootings throughout the country last year, culminating in Newtown, Connecticut, demands that we engage in a serious national discussion about gun violence, not just in terms of weapons and bullets, but also including mental health access, public safety officers, and our responsibility both as individuals and a society.
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Like all rights, it must be balanced against others. I have supported restrictions on the possession of assault-style weapons so our public safety officers are not put at increased risk, and restrictions on the ability of criminals to possess handguns but I fully support the right of Ohioans to own firearms.
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Should the Senate consider this issue in the future, I will support common-sense reforms that protect both public safety and the rights of gun owners. *Thank you again for contacting me.
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**** **** **** **** **** Sincerely,
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**** **** **** **** **** Sherrod Brown
**** **** **** **** **** United States Senator

As expected, it looks pretty standardized. Do I keep sending emails to him or try and answer this email with rebuttal? They probably don't debate us in email eh?
 
Sherrod Brown: said:
As a United States Senator, I took an oath to defend the Constitution. The Second Amendment makes clear that Americans have the right to own guns, and the Supreme Court over time has given meaning to this right.
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Sherrod Brown: said:
I have supported restrictions on the possession of assault-style weapons so our public safety officers are not put at increased risk, and restrictions on the ability of criminals to possess handguns but I fully support the right of Ohioans to own firearms.
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These two conflicting statements (the second is unbelievably self-conflicting) is some of the worst "double-talk" that I've ever seen and tells me that he is part of the anti-gun mob.

As it reads, he'll violate his oath in spite of the meaning given to the 2A by the supreme court.
 
...the Supreme Court over time has given meaning to this right.
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Uh, yeah, that's how our God-given rights work :rolleyes:

Let's see...
"Our children" --check
"Must take action" --check
"Shocking numbers" --check
"Serious national discussion" --check
"Assault-style" --check
"Common sense reforms" --check

6 obvious tells.

Not a bad score, he missed "gun-show loophole" and confusing magazines with clips, but I'll forgive him--it is a short email, after all. I wouldn't count on his support any time soon, but hopefully a strong enough response could get him to abstain from upcoming voting, or at least to stop quoting the administration verbatim. I'd start researching who will run against him next goaround, and begin promoting him immediately.

I have supported restrictions on the possession of assault-style weapons so our public safety officers are not put at increased risk
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And I have rubbed chicken blood on my intake manifold to increase gas mileage
...restrictions on the ability of criminals to possess handguns but I fully support the right of Ohioans to own firearms.
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Umm, yeah; guns are already barred from criminals, and I love the espousal of support for the "right of Ohioans to own firearms" with absolutely no explanation of what that means (especially in light of his detailed description of what "reasonable" restrictions are proper. Take heart that he is forced to pay lip service to the 2nd, for now.

The shocking numbers of public shootings throughout the country last year, culminating in Newtown, Connecticut
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Was that a Fruedian slip? Almost sounds like this last tragedy was just what their "movement" was waiting for. Guess I'd better loosen my tinfoil a tad :D

Do I keep sending emails to him or try and answer this email with rebuttal?
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Don't bother, it's not like he or his staffers would remember the original. You could try addressing the primary "solution topics" he mentions like AWBs and background checks/registration, since he appears to focus on those. Just keep repeating yourself ad naseum, because that's the only way he'll be forced to pay attention to it. Sadly, legislators only respond to volume, nowadays.

I will support common-sense reforms
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Screw what I said just now; that's about as adamant as a Senator can be to a constituent. A far better use of your time would be to promote a challenger to unseat this well-meaning fascist next cycle.

TCB
 
barnbwt said:
Uh, yeah, that's how our God-given rights work :rolleyes:

Let's see...
"Our children" --check
"Must take action" --check
"Shocking numbers" --check
"Serious national discussion" --check
"Assault-style" --check
"Common sense reforms" --check

6 obvious tells.

Not a bad score, he missed "gun-show loophole" and confusing magazines with clips, but I'll forgive him--it is a short email, after all. I wouldn't count on his support any time soon, but hopefully a strong enough response could get him to abstain from upcoming voting, or at least to stop quoting the administration verbatim. I'd start researching who will run against him next goaround, and begin promoting him immediately.


And I have rubbed chicken blood on my intake manifold to increase gas mileage

Umm, yeah; guns are already barred from criminals, and I love the espousal of support for the "right of Ohioans to own firearms" with absolutely no explanation of what that means (especially in light of his detailed description of what "reasonable" restrictions are proper. Take heart that he is forced to pay lip service to the 2nd, for now.


Was that a Fruedian slip? Almost sounds like this last tragedy was just what their "movement" was waiting for. Guess I'd better loosen my tinfoil a tad :D


Don't bother, it's not like he or his staffers would remember the original. You could try addressing the primary "solution topics" he mentions like AWBs and background checks/registration, since he appears to focus on those. Just keep repeating yourself ad naseum, because that's the only way he'll be forced to pay attention to it. Sadly, legislators only respond to volume, nowadays.


Screw what I said just now; that's about as adamant as a Senator can be to a constituent. A far better use of your time would be to promote a challenger to unseat this well-meaning fascist next cycle.

TCB
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Unfortunately he was just re elected this. He blew out the guy I voted for.
 
I'm just gonna send another email addressing his points. Hopefully, I don't get the same response.
 
Sorry Droid noob,

That one's beyond reach.

Myself and countless others I know have gotten hundreds of similar meaningless replies from that poor excuse of "our voice" for years.

And he seems to be even a bit more brazen of late.

Imagine that!

He's beyond hope, but some of the folks that pushed his button in November are still worth talking to.
 
He's beyond hope, but some of the folks that pushed his button in November are still worth talking to.
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Precisely. Go over the head of the good Senator--six years from now :evil:. At least you have plenty of time to hustle opposition votes :cool:

TCB
 
And for a contrast from Ohio, Senator Portman

I posted one of his messages on another thread. They are both pretty much along the same theme...

"I am a gun owner who believes in the right to bear arms in defense of self, family and property. During my 12 years serving in Congress, I received an "A" rating from the National Rifle Association for defending our Constitutional Rights. I opposed the so-called "assault weapons ban" and opposed the Brady Bill. I supported repealing both the Clinton gun ban and the Washington, D.C. gun ban. I voted to protect the private information of gun owners; to protect state gun laws; and to protect firearm and ammunition manufacturers, dealers or importers from lawsuits and damages related to criminal misuse by a third party.

As a life-long hunter, I also believe the rights and freedoms of hunters must be guarded and I developed an executive order that the president signed to enhance hunting and fishing opportunities at wildlife refuges and national preserves. As your Senator, I will continue to protect our Constitutional freedoms and will be a strong advocate for preserving these rights and traditions for future generations."
 
Brown is a well-established gun-grabber, the enemy we know. I highly recommend that you retain a healthy level of skepticism regarding Portman as well...he, like the rest of his ilk, will trade away our rights as a bargaining chip to get something he wants more in a heartbeat.
 
I highly recommend that you retain a healthy level of skepticism regarding Portman as well...he, like the rest of his ilk, will trade away our rights as a bargaining chip to get something he wants more in a heartbeat.
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Yes Sir,
I voted for him and Josh Mandel, but whom ever may be "serving", we need to keep that match ready to light under their feet.
 
chipcom said:
The lesser of two evils is still evil...I no longer play that game. IMO as long as we accept the lesser of two evils as the new normal, the farther down the rabbit hole we will fall.
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I agree in principal, but the current system hamstrings those that aren't R's and D's. I don't even remember if there was another choice besides Mandel and brown.
 
If none of the candidates are worthy, don't vote for any of them or write in NONE OF THE ABOVE. Voting for the lesser of two evils just ensures that we will always be represented by evil. Don't sanction someone with your vote if you don't trust him/her to represent your core values.
 
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