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Underlevers are pretty popular in the UK, they were basically the replacement for pistols, being chambered in .357 and .44
Perhaps that's where all of the marlins have ended up. My club has three of them.
 
I treasure my Marlin 1894c in .357. It even eats FMJ and LRN .38s. My only problem is it's too pristine to be the the do all truck gun I was looking for at the time. Since Marlin got eaten up I am pretty careful with it and my 39As.

The AR is a super versatile gun and in another thread I said it might be the one if I could only have one ....... but I'd be hard pressed to liquidate my Marlin levers.
 
I have nearly enough Economics credits for a minor in Economics.... I understand supply and demand, intimately... however, that doesn't answer the following: Why don't gun makers make...

1. More lever action .357 rifles. Seems EVERYONE wants 'em, but they are scarce as hens teeth. If it's a matter of resources, then stop making .30-30s (they are saturated in the market) and rededicate resources to the .357. Even just 10% more would be a great profit margin. I think I've actually only 'held' one or two in my life!!! Consider that versus the dozens of .30-30s I've held... and the few I've owned.

First, there aren't that many lever action 30-30s out there any more, and they aren't selling very well.

Second, gun makers DO offer 357 lever guns, and shops don't order more because they sit there.

Remember, supply and demand is based on REAL demand, not what people claim to like.

2. Modern gun made in 7.62x25 Tok. It's hot. It's cheap ammo. It's a fantastic round. Let's do it!!! I see that the old Tok is finally being modernized, but that's not what I'm talking about! Come on Gaston, make a few less G17s and make some G-Toks!

If the buying public really thought that the 7.62x25 Tok was such a great cartridge it would drive up the price of surplus handguns so chambered. The demand just isn't there.


3. Someone buy up the SKS patent and start churning them out with both fixed and AK47 mag compatibility. Why re-invent the wheel. Modernize it. Bullpup it (ala SGWorks stock). Punch these suckers out. What's the holdup.

What are your thoughts?

The manufacturing methods of producing SKSs would be prohibitively high in today's manufacturing world. NO one is going to pay $1200 for a newly built SKS. Injection molding, CNC machines and other technologies are both more precise and cheaper.

People always talk about wanting 'old school' craftsmanship, but they rarely want to pay the price. Colt didn't stop making Pythons because they hate their customers, it was because Pythons weren't selling well.

Now when a gunmaker comes out with an economy bolt action rifle like the Ruger American everyone is all over it, but truly great rifle makers who churn out products of great quality such as Dakota Arms struggles to make sales numbers. It just cheaper to invest heavily in precision machinery and make a ton of guns than it is to spend a lot of time lovingly building a handful of rifles.
 
This is like the "why doesn't colt make the python again? I know 10 guys who would buy them right now!"

It's just not economically feasible. Imagine what a Mosin would cost if it were made today?
 
Between the two gun stores I frequent, I think combined they have half a dozen .357 lever guns of various make and model. The demand isn't there as much as you may think. Would I want one? Sure. Can I get one? Of course. Is that what sells? Not in this age of tacticool special operator call of duty wannabes. Black plastic, aluminum and rails are what's popular. Not cold.steel and polished wood.

I know a lot of gun people. None of them care about the Tokarev round.

A new production American made SKS does interest me. Produced in various calibers and barrel lengths. But its greatest competition would be the American made AR. The SKS is a good rifle, but it has its drawbacks. The sights are a hold over from the 19th century. The dust cover doesn't allow for mounting good iron sights, or decent optics. Also, price point. A modern SKS would cost as much as an AR, or more. I wouldn't expect a wood stock or a fixed magazine. I'd expect a tactical plastic stock an detachable magazines (not the duckbill).

The demand isn't there on a high enough level. Tooling isn't cheap. To even break even, thousands would need to be sold on per order. And that level of sales would need to be long term sustainable. It won't be. The demand for these ideas is so minute on the grand scale, no company is will into take the risk.
The dust cover issue is no different than the AK. The proper way to scope rifles like that is by the use of a rail on the side of the receiver.
 
The dust cover issue is no different than the AK. The proper way to scope rifles like that is by the use of a rail on the side of the receiver.
Which the SKS is not set up for. And if it were, the scope is going to look like crap after a few mags of brass getting ejected direct into the bottom.

The AK addressed this issue. The SKS is looking at a design change. Which will increase the cost further.
 
including a number of AR pistol carbines, which would, I suspect, be a great deal of fun.

Oh yeah! I've got one of the CNC Machine uppers and with a Slide-Fire stock I sure miss the days of $100/1200 corrosive surplus 7.62x25 ammo!
 
I don't have any problem finding 357 magnum leverguns. The problem is finding them at a good price. I really lucked out at the end of 2011 when I picked one up in mint condition for $290.
 
Which the SKS is not set up for. And if it were, the scope is going to look like crap after a few mags of brass getting ejected direct into the bottom.

The AK addressed this issue. The SKS is looking at a design change. Which will increase the cost further.
Nope. It works perfectly well as the scope is offset to the side a bit. Besides if one has it setup in such a way that the brass is hitting the bottom of the scope, it also means one can't use clips with it.

Look around at SKSs with POSP scopes if you want to see what I am talking about.
 
Nope. It works perfectly well as the scope is offset to the side a bit. Besides if one has it setup in such a way that the brass is hitting the bottom of the scope, it also means one can't use clips with it.

Look around at SKSs with POSP scopes if you want to see what I am talking about.
I'll do that once you show me an SKS with the side mounted adapter as a factory original design, not some after thought. Be it a professional or done by Bubba, the SKS was not designed to accept optics. Hence the reason it would need to be redesigned. Which would make it something other than an SKS.
 
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I want Ruger to make a "western" lever gun. If they made one well, I would pay the price for it.

As for the modern SKS I have to agree it would just cost too much to produce. And I think a lot of people own them for the nostalgia besides being cheap to shoot. Same with most old military rifles. Owning and operating one connects us to history.
 
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