Concealed Carry revolver questions

I carry a 44 special in Rossi 720 and a Taurus 431. I also carry a a Ruger Speed Six in 357 mag.

All three guns are great ccw weapons. All three will get the job done. Big Bore is 44, you will never go wrong with the Special

And 357 will keep the bad guy out of heaven

The 44,s are 3inchers and the Ruger is 2 3/4

I love my revolvers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHighfield said:

@huntershooter and Cajunbass

What is the purpose of the black spacer between the grip and the trigger guard? I've seen them on plenty of revolvers and all I can see them doing is pushing my pinky off the end of the grip.

Is it a recoil management thing, or does it just widen up the grip for comfort or what??

Click to expand...

Thats's a Tyler T-Grip adapter. Double action revolvers originally had smallish grips, with an open space behind the trigger. This placed the middle finger up in behind the trigger, which required considerable contortion to get the index finger on the trigger that way. One solution is to grip low, but that's difficult to do the same way every time, if the space is still there. Thus the grip adapter, which fills the annoying space, and permits a consistent grip.

If you look at all the rest of the guns shown, you'll notice that their grips are built to fill that space, but, with the S&Ws, anyhow, if you take them off, the frame is still the odd old shape.

What is the purpose of the black spacer between the grip and the trigger guard? I've seen them on plenty of revolvers and all I can see them doing is pushing my pinky off the end of the grip.

Click to expand...

Matt has pretty well summed it up. Back in the day, when T-grips were really popular, we didn't have the all the aftermarket grip options we have today, so the T-grip offered a better grip for a very low price. They also don't add any bulk to the gun, which most aftermarket grips do.

Today, to be truthful although I find them quite comfortable, I really like them for the nostalgia factor.

Of the four .357 Mag loads and three .38 Spl loads I tested, there was a significant difference in muzzle velocity and energy shooting the .357 Mag loads. The average MV of the four .357 Mag loads was 1,150 fps with an average ME of 366 ft-lb. Compare that to the .38 Spl loads with an average MV of 805 fps and a ME of 195 ft-lb. That's a difference in MV of 345 fps (+ 43%) and ME of 171 ft-lb (+ 89%) in favor of the .357 Mag.

Click to expand...

Thanks 1858 for the good thread!

As a comparison for cost and performance, my Glock 19 shoots Speer Gold Dot 124 grain JHP at 1150 FPS. I find it very interesting to see how 357 Magnum slows down in the snubby revolver.

tomrkba said:

As a comparison for cost and performance, my Glock 19 shoots Speer Gold Dot 124 grain JHP at 1150 FPS. I find it very interesting to see how 357 Magnum slows down in the snubby revolver.

Click to expand...

Short barreled revolvers simply don't enable a full burn of the powder. Remington's 125gr SJHP UMC load has about 20gr of a typical magnum powder. Give it an 18" barrel and you'll see velocities around 2,200 fps. Typical 9mm loads have 1/4 the amount of powder and the powder is typically faster. Those loads are optimized for one barrel length i.e 4". Shoot them out of an 18" barrel and see what happens!!

Delete

As a comparison for cost and performance, my Glock 19 shoots Speer Gold Dot 124 grain JHP at 1150 FPS. I find it very interesting to see how 357 Magnum slows down in the snubby revolver.

Click to expand...

Another member of the forum was posting some chronograph results from a Ruger LCR and was getting 1100-1200 FPS results with various .357 ammo. While that compares to your results from a Glock 19, I'd like to see how that compares to the same load in a Kahr CM9 or Ruger LC9. In other words, pocket pistol to pocket pistol. Or else your Glock 19 results compared to a 3 inch Ruger SP101 or 3 inch S&W Model 60 for a more apples to apples comparison.

A Model 10 snub makes a fine carry piece. Carry a 10-2 square butt with a 2" barrel owb @ 3:30, no issues. Just leave your shirt untucked or use a cover garment

Fond of the 4.25" GP 100 myself.

My favorite carry gun I ever had was a 3" SP101 with Hogue Monogrip.

I've made the change to a Ruger Speed Six, which I also absolutely love, but that SP101 had the edge, I think.

It's just a wonderful "do anything" kinda gun. It shoots easily and accurately enough to make a great HD gun, recoil is light enough for a fun range toy, carries well enough to be a great CCW. etc.....

I have three revolvers that I carry regularly (not all at the same time). A 2 inch S&W Model 36 (OWB holster), a 2 inch S&W Model 442 (pocket) and a 2 3/4 Ruger Speed Six (OWB holster). In my opinion, the best all around carry gun is the Speed Six. I use standard velocity 158 grain .38 caliber semi-wadcutters in all of them. I save the high velocity stuff for my hunting handguns.

Has anyone else noticed in the 3 pages of posts the OP hasn't come back?

ArchAngelCD said:

Has anyone else noticed in the 3 pages of posts the OP hasn't come back?

Click to expand...

He's eating popcorn, watching this show, and doesn't want butter on the keyboard....

Ruger six series is hard to beat, There are still lots of very good ones out there at very reasonable prices and they are built tough as nails.

That's the way to do it! Find out what feels and shoots best for you. I carry a 3" SP101 and will probably stick to revolvers from here on out.

Old geezer, old gun, carried concealed daily.

45 ACP/AR

I sure am glad to find out that all the Charter and Taurus revolvers I've owned over the years are crap. It's a shame that they've all worked perfectly.
I'll be sure to tell them that they're crap and that they should stop working.

What I am looking for at the moment is a Smith and Wesson model 12.
Haven't found any, but an Airweight K frame is a good thing.

Failing that, I'll look for a model 10, 13, 65, 19, 64, 66, 67 snub.

I've looked at the Taurus 445 Ultralight. Not bad at all, but my Charter Bulldogs feel better to me. No MIM parts, either.

Not that I really NEED a 6 shot Smith K frame snub. I have a Ruger Speed Six 2.75" .38, and a Dan Wesson 2.5"(?) .357.

1858 said:

A Ruger KLCR is what I carry ... two of them that is. I just added another KLCR with CT laser grips. The KLCR is the by far the best handgun I've ever carried. I own an SP101 and would never recommend it for CC over a KLCR. There are some who talk about the brutal recoil but that hasn't been my experience with Golden Saber 125gr BJHP. Pick a load you can comfortably handle and all is good.

Click to expand...

After I traded for an LCR 38 my TWO sp101's got traded in on a GSR

I've carried everything from an m60 to a 44spl titanium Taurus. The LCR is the revolver I wish I'd have bought first

R.W.Dale said:

After I traded for an LCR 38 my TWO sp101's got traded in on a GSR

I've carried everything from an m60 to a 44spl titanium Taurus. The LCR is the revolver I wish I'd have bought first

Click to expand...

I agree 110%. I've tried numerous other handguns as well including SIGs (P239, P225, P220), an Ed Brown Special Forces Carry, a Dan Wesson V-Bob, a Ruger SP101 and an XD-S in .45 Auto. None except the XD-S come close to the KLCR for ease of carry. And the LCRs are great shooters too. The trigger is outstanding for a factory gun. These days, if I'm not going to use a handgun for CC I start asking myself why I have it. I've already sold four rifles and two handguns in recent months and can see a lot more ending up on GunBroker.

I think in a few years we'll look on the LCR like we do the glock for autoloaders as the plastic handgun that changed EVERYTHING.

Shooting and carrying one made me a believer now the eager wait for more variations. 9mm, a large frame 44spl LCR, and a 3 or 4" barreled version.

Hard to argue with any of that! Have you heard anything about other variants or is this wishful thinking on your part?

1858 said:

Hard to argue with any of that! Have you heard anything about other variants or is this wishful thinking on your part?

Click to expand...

Wishful thinking. But knowing ruger they'll milk the platform for every sale they can to eager buyers like me.

S&W 386NG or PD. Seven shots of .357 Mag in a compact revolver. Easy to conceal IWB or scabbard.

What is the purpose of the black spacer between the grip and the trigger guard? I've seen them on plenty of revolvers and all I can see them doing is pushing my pinky off the end of the grip.

Is it a recoil management thing, or does it just widen up the grip for comfort or what??

Click to expand...

Considering that no human hand is designed for the middle to little finger to grasp somthing then crank your index finger downward and pull something with a 10+ lb resistance not back wards but toward the middie finger, it will be immediately appearant how much nonsense the old revolver grip designs are.

That's the reason modern revolvers like GP100 and M686 offered now does not have the gap behind the grip.