Most fun I've had in a handgun ever. Kel-Tek PMR-30

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Bought one for my wife. My initial impression is that the pistol is fairly accurate.
The light-weightness of it is amazing. Mine (I mean hers) fed reliably the 40 grn CCI HP bullets we used.
We were impressed. Looking foward to the RMR-30 if they ever come out with it.
I like the .22 mag round. Packs a good little punch, is flat shooting, and very lightweight. Out of a pistol, it is roughly equivalent to the .22 lr out of a rifle.
 
I just don't understand Kel-tec. They only want to be a boutique firearms manufacturer and not the largest firearms manufacturer in the world. Shortages and product unavailability is just part of their business plan?

'Hey guys we make cool guns. But we only made 5 this month.'

15 years from now (same story).

They don't want to sell millions of dollars worth of inventory each month. It would be too much.
 
I have to agree, tbh.

They're weak on fit and finish, but that is actually a solved problem. They just can't be bothered.

They're weak on production, but with modern CNC equipment, there's no real reason they couldn't outsource or simply scale up.

They're weak on distribution: given the technology and tools in today's online economy there is no reason Kel-Tec themselves couldn't handle the backorder for the end-users. I think it might give them a bit more incentive to increase production.

They're VERY strong on innovation and usability. One might even say usability is their primary innovation. Most of their weapons tend towards the smallest or lightest in class. The newer weapons also tend to use as many common parts as they can get away with.

Lets do a little review:
Sub-2000 PCCs: One of fairly few PCCs on the market. Takes common inexpensive handgun magazines. Fold up fairly compact for transport/backpacking. Considered one of the best camp guns on the market because of this. Highly desired, virtually impossible to find, especially in glock mag versions.
SU-16 family: One of fairly few semi-auto .223s that isn't a mini-14 or AR. Uses Ar magazines. Folds down for easy transport, one variant even can fire while folded. uses several ar-15 components. Inexpensive compared to other .223 semi-autos, EXTREMELY lightweight. Hard to find, generally doesn't stay in stock long. Note: Family includes one of very very few factory SRBs on the market.
RFB: When it came out it was the only .308 bullpup on the market. Considered to have one of the best triggers of any bullpup. Shorter than a folded FAL-paratrooper version. Available in 3 barrel lenghts, though good luck finding any of them. Same weight as the IWI Tavor, which only comes in .223. Uses commonly available FAL magazines. One of the most desired and hard to find rifles in the country.
PF-9: one of the smallest 9mms available. Has inspired several clones and knockoffs. Rumor has it that the Ruger LC9 is a clone of this gun. (I have no idea if this is true or not.)
p-11: One of the smallest double stack 9mms available. Also having inspired clones and knockoffs. In fact, the SCCY CPX-1 is almost a straight clone of this, from a former Kel-Tec employee.
PMR-30: (and I suppose its grand-daddy the grendel p-30) An ultra-light, full size .22wmr handgun with 30 round magazines. Excellent sights out of the box. Considered to be >THE< hardest to find and one of the most desirable current production handguns. See my review in the OP for my opinion.
KSG: While it isn't exactly a clone of the neostead, it is obviously inspired by it. Twin tube pump action shotgun. It incorporates features that bypass California's magazine capacity ban (and those cropping up in other states) As with many of the above, it is considered very highly desirable, and very hard to find. Kel-tec has stated that they're expanding their production on the KSG as a priority over everything else currently.

Virtually everything they make is desireable DESPITE the fit and finish issues. Frankly I'd have hunted down a RFB by now if they'd followed through with initial "musings" and actually made it available in other .308 based calibers. If they'd come out with a .260 rem varient with a barrel of sufficient length to fully burn the powder in the case, I'da jumped on that bigtime.
 
Put another 300 rounds through my pmr on tuesday. I would like to reiterate my opinion that it is the most enjoyable handgun I've ever fired. I bought 4 more magazines for it (Going up to 6) and once I learned the trick to loading them, I've had not one single failure of any kind.

If you can find one, consider it an excellent range toy, or varminter.
 
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I did a sponsorship for a Friends of NRA aution and dinner event. The sponsorship includes a Kel Tec PMR 30. Went to pick it up at the dealer handling the NRA guns sold at the auction. I simply did not like the feel of the PMR 30 nor the appearance. Traded right there for a Ruger SR22 with the Crimson Trace laser sighting system. Dealer got hell of a good deal on that trade. I simply didn't want to bring the fugly PMR 30 home. 22 mag is not something I like shooting when I can reloadd 223 for less money per round.
 
If the PMR30 were available at MSRP, I would certainly buy one. I would really like the RMR30 carbine version which can be seen on YouTube, but which I have heard will never be sold.
However, the current unavailability of ammo would give me pause.
Right now, I have looked at the new Ruger American 22mag bolt rifle, which my LGS has for $249. So far, I am passing on it because of the ammo situation. I have not seen a single box of 22mag ammo for a year.
 
Interesting comment about 22 magnum ammunition not been available as I have been able to buy it regularly during the past year.

The only downside is here hasn't been much in the way of choices which for a semi-auto could be a real problem in terms of functioning.
 
I've seen more .22wmr than .22lr around here - but neither is commonly available, and there isn't much diversity.

Luckily, the PMR30 runs on the most common .22wmr ammo, it is a bit ammo picky, but it eats CCI MaxiMags and the newer Gold Dot/Critical Defense stuff happily, and other than a few cheapo winchester options, that's what I've been seeing on shelves.
 
While I have never personally shot any Kel-Tec products. Many are on my list for future acquisition. Cool and fun guns for cheap. What's not to like!
Lets do a little review:
Sub-2000 PCCs: One of fairly few PCCs on the market. Takes common inexpensive handgun magazines. Fold up fairly compact for transport/backpacking. Considered one of the best camp guns on the market because of this. Highly desired, virtually impossible to find, especially in glock mag versions.
SU-16 family: One of fairly few semi-auto .223s that isn't a mini-14 or AR. Uses Ar magazines. Folds down for easy transport, one variant even can fire while folded. uses several ar-15 components. Inexpensive compared to other .223 semi-autos, EXTREMELY lightweight. Hard to find, generally doesn't stay in stock long. Note: Family includes one of very very few factory SRBs on the market.
RFB: When it came out it was the only .308 bullpup on the market. Considered to have one of the best triggers of any bullpup. Shorter than a folded FAL-paratrooper version. Available in 3 barrel lenghts, though good luck finding any of them. Same weight as the IWI Tavor, which only comes in .223. Uses commonly available FAL magazines. One of the most desired and hard to find rifles in the country.
PF-9: one of the smallest 9mms available. Has inspired several clones and knockoffs. Rumor has it that the Ruger LC9 is a clone of this gun. (I have no idea if this is true or not.)
p-11: One of the smallest double stack 9mms available. Also having inspired clones and knockoffs. In fact, the SCCY CPX-1 is almost a straight clone of this, from a former Kel-Tec employee.
PMR-30: (and I suppose its grand-daddy the grendel p-30) An ultra-light, full size .22wmr handgun with 30 round magazines. Excellent sights out of the box. Considered to be >THE< hardest to find and one of the most desirable current production handguns. See my review in the OP for my opinion.
KSG: While it isn't exactly a clone of the neostead, it is obviously inspired by it. Twin tube pump action shotgun. It incorporates features that bypass California's magazine capacity ban (and those cropping up in other states) As with many of the above, it is considered very highly desirable, and very hard to find. Kel-tec has stated that they're expanding their production on the KSG as a priority over everything else currently.

I found every single model you listed on gun broker. That's available enough for me.
 
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