.22lr MEGATHREAD
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Picked up another 3 boxes of Federal 550 @ Walmart this morning (got 3 boxes from another store yesterday).
Had to drive 36 miles, but it was "supposed" to be in 3 stores all within 10 miles of each other - only managed to get ammo at one, and only one other person showed up while I was there.
Unfortunately, the other two stores were a bust - one store has a history of never having any despite inventory tripping, then showing sold out later in the day.
It looks like another one of the formerly stores on the up and up may have gone over to the dark side - never had trouble getting ammo in this store when inventory tripped (10 times) - today is the first time I've gotten a lot of excuses at this store.
The local gun shop got in 3 cases (30 cans) of the nitrogen filled cans of Federal 325-rds. and a case of the high dollar Federal Match Ammo.
I stopped in to pick up some of the Federal nitrogen packed cans, but he wanted $24.95 / can so I passed on 'em - last can I bought at Gander Mountain was $19.95 / can.
For a laugh, I asked how much the Federal Match Ammo was - $100 / brick - I'm looking for mostly bulk, so I knew I wasn't interested.
I don't like paying $19.95 for the nitrogen packed stuff, but have a couple of cans for the novelty and long-term storage - wouldn't mind having a few more cans, but not at $24.97.
Those 22LR prices are high for our local shop, but he's so desperate for 22LR these days that he's taking whatever he can get from any supplier, at (almost?) any price.
In normal times, he probably would not have bought the nitrogen packed stuff from that particular supplier at the price he had to pay.
Had to drive 36 miles, but it was "supposed" to be in 3 stores all within 10 miles of each other - only managed to get ammo at one, and only one other person showed up while I was there.
Unfortunately, the other two stores were a bust - one store has a history of never having any despite inventory tripping, then showing sold out later in the day.
It looks like another one of the formerly stores on the up and up may have gone over to the dark side - never had trouble getting ammo in this store when inventory tripped (10 times) - today is the first time I've gotten a lot of excuses at this store.
The local gun shop got in 3 cases (30 cans) of the nitrogen filled cans of Federal 325-rds. and a case of the high dollar Federal Match Ammo.
I stopped in to pick up some of the Federal nitrogen packed cans, but he wanted $24.95 / can so I passed on 'em - last can I bought at Gander Mountain was $19.95 / can.
For a laugh, I asked how much the Federal Match Ammo was - $100 / brick - I'm looking for mostly bulk, so I knew I wasn't interested.
I don't like paying $19.95 for the nitrogen packed stuff, but have a couple of cans for the novelty and long-term storage - wouldn't mind having a few more cans, but not at $24.97.
Those 22LR prices are high for our local shop, but he's so desperate for 22LR these days that he's taking whatever he can get from any supplier, at (almost?) any price.
In normal times, he probably would not have bought the nitrogen packed stuff from that particular supplier at the price he had to pay.
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Mike1234567
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(Jim Croce, Time In a Bottle melody)
If I could save dimes in a bottle
The first thing that I'd like to do
Is to save every dime 'till eternity passes away
Just to spend them on you
If I could make ammo last forever
If words could make wishes come true
I'd save every dime like a treasure and then
Again, I would spend them on you
But there never seems to be enough dimes
To shoot the gun you want to shoot, once you have one
I've shot the rounds enough to know
That you're the one I want to spend my dimes on
I've an ammo box full of wishes
And empty mags, that's sadly so true
The box still is empty, except for the memory of how
They were "borrowed" by you
But there never seems to be enough dimes
To shoot the gun you want to shoot, once you have one
I've shot the rounds enough to know
That you're the one I want to spend my dimes on
If I could save dimes in a bottle
The first thing that I'd like to do
Is to save every dime 'till eternity passes away
Just to spend them on you
If I could make ammo last forever
If words could make wishes come true
I'd save every dime like a treasure and then
Again, I would spend them on you
But there never seems to be enough dimes
To shoot the gun you want to shoot, once you have one
I've shot the rounds enough to know
That you're the one I want to spend my dimes on
I've an ammo box full of wishes
And empty mags, that's sadly so true
The box still is empty, except for the memory of how
They were "borrowed" by you
But there never seems to be enough dimes
To shoot the gun you want to shoot, once you have one
I've shot the rounds enough to know
That you're the one I want to spend my dimes on
Gun Master
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Highly Priced / Largly Unavailable .22LR Ammo
Makes me feel like "Bad, Bad, Leroy Brown !"
Makes me feel like "Bad, Bad, Leroy Brown !"
Gun Master
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What about you, dogtown tom ?
What about you, dogtown tom ?
Walmart Apps and ammo
The sporting good managere told me people are downloading Apps on smart phones for their local Walmarts to determine when ammo is coming in and what it will be.For example if it comes in at 4PM, be in line before 8PM.
The sporting good managere told me people are downloading Apps on smart phones for their local Walmarts to determine when ammo is coming in and what it will be.For example if it comes in at 4PM, be in line before 8PM.
horsemen61
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Yeah funny thing is how inaccurate the apps are 
I love it when people try to tell me what I have and don't have in the back 
I love it when people try to tell me what I have and don't have in the back Pages of tricks and tips to score lowly ole 22's.
I wonder how many just say screw it and move on to some other form of recreation? How many youth never get started in the first place?
Regardless of who or what is behind it , heck, maybe nothing or nobody is behind it, I bet the anti's are thinking this the definitely the way to future success in a time when legislation is hopeless.
I wonder how many just say screw it and move on to some other form of recreation? How many youth never get started in the first place?
Regardless of who or what is behind it , heck, maybe nothing or nobody is behind it, I bet the anti's are thinking this the definitely the way to future success in a time when legislation is hopeless.
Panzerschwein
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Wal-Mart... oh Wal-Mart...
*chews tongue, squeezes hands tensely*
I am SICK of these GAMES Wal-Mart puts me through! ENOUGH OF IT! If I am passing through for groceries and they have some ammo I want at a good price, I'll buy it. I will not schedule my day around when that store has ammo. The internet has proven to me to be a MUCH better source for ammo that is just as good/the same product for less money and I can buy it on my time.
YMMV.
*chews tongue, squeezes hands tensely*
I am SICK of these GAMES Wal-Mart puts me through! ENOUGH OF IT! If I am passing through for groceries and they have some ammo I want at a good price, I'll buy it. I will not schedule my day around when that store has ammo. The internet has proven to me to be a MUCH better source for ammo that is just as good/the same product for less money and I can buy it on my time.
YMMV.
ugaarguy
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Cooldill, these aren't games Wal Mart is putting you through. Wal Mart has a smartphone app for e-commerce that lets you shop for almost everything they carry. Apparently the smartphone app also provides in store availability status like their website, and unlike the website it apparently provides some predicted inventory presumably based on data from their distribution system. Some folks have chosen to use the app to try to buy ammo when it will be in stock.
So, lets keep this on the topic of ammo availability.
So, lets keep this on the topic of ammo availability.
Gun Master
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Gun Master
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Shopping By Apps For .22 Ammo
The way I look at it, life is not centered around ".22 ammo" and "apps", but thanks for the info. I'm sure it's helpful to others. ><>
Some choose to shop "The Old Fashioned Way", not another person's choice.
The way I look at it, life is not centered around ".22 ammo" and "apps", but thanks for the info. I'm sure it's helpful to others. ><>
Gun owner paranoia is behind it. We are our own worse enemy.
The most likely bans are high capacity magazines and assault weapons. Look at how cheap and plentiful these are right now.
The least likely item to be banned has the most panic buyers.
It's just a case of the perfect storm...
1. Preppers - this appears to be the caliber of choice - I'm no prepper, but have listened to a number of their podcasts - a few know what they're doing, but you can tell the majority of the callers don't. I figure the Federal Nitrogen Packed cans of 22 are the result of the prepper market?
2. New shooters - some are probably starting with a 22.
3. 22LR ARs - At's me, and who knows how many others out there? I got into 22LR 8 months ago (bought my first 22AR) - us folks can shoot a lot of 22LR in an afternoon! I still hear old timers complain and ask "what are you going to do with that much ammo?" I tell 'em it's a new day, and the rules have changed - I ain't squirrel hunting with a bolt action 22 - we're dumping a lot thru our semi-autos. I know a lot of folks that have bought 22ARs over the last year, and have been buying the 22LR to feed 'em.
4. Flippers - I've seen them in action at our local Walmart - brings an entire posse (and wives) - often the worst if there's a big local flea market in the area.
5. Panic buyers - you know it's going on, probably by some that don't even have a 22. We recently had a fellow show up at the shop with an AR he bought at a gun show (thought he was going to make money on it). He sheepishly told the shop owner he paid $2,500, but was asking "only" $1,600 for it. The shop owner pointed at the exact same AR sitting in his rack for $999.
I feel like the same thing is going to happen to some of the flippers, but who knows when?
6. Ammo makers not expanding - although I heard on Tom Gresham's show a while back that some ammo makers have finally decided that what we see going on now may not be the new normal, they've finally decided that when things do slow down, 22LR sales are still going to be much higher than in the past. As such, some have finally decided to expand, but it will take a while for production to come on line, and I'm sure they're thinking small (expansion).
And there ya have it - I'm sure I missed a smaller group or two, but the above have the makings for a perfect storm AFA causing the 22 ammo shortage.
I don't think there's any great conspiracy AFA 22LR shortages - I figure it's caused by:
1. Preppers - this appears to be the caliber of choice - I'm no prepper, but have listened to a number of their podcasts - a few know what they're doing, but you can tell the majority of the callers don't. I figure the Federal Nitrogen Packed cans of 22 are the result of the prepper market?
2. New shooters - some are probably starting with a 22.
3. 22LR ARs - At's me, and who knows how many others out there? I got into 22LR 8 months ago (bought my first 22AR) - us folks can shoot a lot of 22LR in an afternoon! I still hear old timers complain and ask "what are you going to do with that much ammo?" I tell 'em it's a new day, and the rules have changed - I ain't squirrel hunting with a bolt action 22 - we're dumping a lot thru our semi-autos. I know a lot of folks that have bought 22ARs over the last year, and have been buying the 22LR to feed 'em.
4. Flippers - I've seen them in action at our local Walmart - brings an entire posse (and wives) - often the worst if there's a big local flea market in the area.
5. Panic buyers - you know it's going on, probably by some that don't even have a 22. We recently had a fellow show up at the shop with an AR he bought at a gun show (thought he was going to make money on it). He sheepishly told the shop owner he paid $2,500, but was asking "only" $1,600 for it. The shop owner pointed at the exact same AR sitting in his rack for $999.
I feel like the same thing is going to happen to some of the flippers, but who knows when?
6. Ammo makers not expanding - although I heard on Tom Gresham's show a while back that some ammo makers have finally decided that what we see going on now may not be the new normal, they've finally decided that when things do slow down, 22LR sales are still going to be much higher than in the past. As such, some have finally decided to expand, but it will take a while for production to come on line, and I'm sure they're thinking small (expansion).
And there ya have it - I'm sure I missed a smaller group or two, but the above have the makings for a perfect storm AFA causing the 22 ammo shortage.
Mike1234567
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Another "yep".
I don't know what games you're talking about?
I know Walmart's policy (as told to me by Bentonville) - some stores strictly follow the policy - the "games" are being played by some employees and their friends.
I know our local flipper appears to be buddies with everyone in the sporting goods department.
Some have complained, thinking if Walmart puts the ammo out at the same time every day (7am), the same folks are going to get it every time.
I try to explain to them that they have a better chance of getting it if it is put out at 7am every day, as then it's first come, first serve.
For our local store (and others I've visited), if they put it out at different times during the day, the same insiders would be notified, thus killing the first come, first serve policy - if employees have the flexibility to put it out at different times of the day, they can simply hold it until their notified friends / flippers arrive.
The bottom line is it's not Walmart per se that's "playing games".
plmitch
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Oh the poor walmart shopper saga continues.......some will never learn.....
Vodoun da Vinci
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The only .22 LR gun I have is a Ruger Bearcat. My Wife and I plink with it now and again and she really likes just "shooting" and working on trigger control and sights and not shooting" big" guns. We had a chance to shoot a friends H&K MP5 A5 .22 clone and she loves it. I'd like to buy her one but we only have about 1000 rounds of .22 LR left in The Stash and buying more, especially to feed a semi auto, gives me the creeps.
.22 LR is hard to find and expensive...Will it ever come back? I mean, are the days of inexpensive rimfire ammunition over to the point I should get her an AR-15 and reload .223 to guarantee a supply of ammunition?
Really...I don't think it's ever gonna come back. What do you guys think?
VooDoo
.22 LR is hard to find and expensive...Will it ever come back? I mean, are the days of inexpensive rimfire ammunition over to the point I should get her an AR-15 and reload .223 to guarantee a supply of ammunition?
Really...I don't think it's ever gonna come back. What do you guys think?
VooDoo
km101
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That is if the store follows policy and actually STOCKS the ammo that comes in. I have been told by both local stores that "we have not seen 22 ammo in months." When the app shows that they are getting it regularly! Who ya' gonna' believe?
sig228
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My 02/13/14 Cabelas order just shipped!! Woohoo.
(Brick of 525 for 29.94 shipped).
(Brick of 525 for 29.94 shipped).
Gun Master
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Need .22 ammo ? Really ?
1. Price returns "to normal" (whatever that is ). There has been some possible trends indicated in that direction recently.
2. SNAFU. In that case, I will not buy ,or attempt to do so, expensive/rare .22 ammo.
3. Prices return to "normal". Each individual will have to decide, if that is the case.
4. If #2 prevails, centerfire arms and ammo will be more abundant (and hopefully not much more costly).
5. If #4 happens, .22 arms (and ammo) will become collectors items.
6. Also if #2 lingers, perhaps more ammo manufacturers will enter the market. Competition will lower the price and increase availability .
7. In the meantime, I plan to sit back, relax, and enjoy the show.
I see (at least) the following outcomes :
1. Price returns "to normal" (whatever that is ). There has been some possible trends indicated in that direction recently.
2. SNAFU. In that case, I will not buy ,or attempt to do so, expensive/rare .22 ammo.
3. Prices return to "normal". Each individual will have to decide, if that is the case.
4. If #2 prevails, centerfire arms and ammo will be more abundant (and hopefully not much more costly).
5. If #4 happens, .22 arms (and ammo) will become collectors items.
6. Also if #2 lingers, perhaps more ammo manufacturers will enter the market. Competition will lower the price and increase availability .
7. In the meantime, I plan to sit back, relax, and enjoy the show.
sig228
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Basicblur, I think your observations are right on point, especially with the ar-15 rifles that come in 22lr plus conversion kits for same plus the proliferation of new guns, especially semis, offered in 22lr. Times today are not the same as a few years ago when the most popular 22lr was a 10/22. Now there are so many more offerings...
Husker1911
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I've not had the chance to do much shooting, the past couple years (Drat!) I'm curious, is .22WMR as scarce as the LR ammo?
anothernewb
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skimmed most of the pages. so this is probably answered..
the web goes out to the world - so in theory other countries likely can also read about the 22 issues here. makes me wonder if they - not having to deal with epa and other crap and hoops - could cash in on the shortage, expand and increase their supply to the american market. wolf 223 is kinda crappy - but Wolf 22 is pretty darn good IMO.
the web goes out to the world - so in theory other countries likely can also read about the 22 issues here. makes me wonder if they - not having to deal with epa and other crap and hoops - could cash in on the shortage, expand and increase their supply to the american market. wolf 223 is kinda crappy - but Wolf 22 is pretty darn good IMO.
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