Pic of Rugers new Kp345 45acp

Did anyone notice the Ruger MkIII announcement? Magazine disconnect, internal safety, and US style magazine release. It's a shame that Ruger is allowing such a classic design to be ruined by lawyers!
Ruger sucks.

I didn't think it was possible to make the P series autos uglier.

I dont understand the hatred of internal locks..if you dont like it, dont use it...

I dont use it on my steyr...and it doesnt bother me that it is there.

and aside from that...for the people who cannot afford nice safes, etc...i think it is more secure than a cable lock. You can take out a cable lock with some wire cutters....but a stolen pistol that is locked via the internal lock has a better chance of not being used (fired) in a crime...i would imagine.

I'm still buying a P90. I like the fact that with $70 worth of drop-ins i can shoot +P and .45 super all day. Can't do that with their poly guns.

Gotta admit, it's downright pretty for a plastic ruger.
Hmmmmm.....
Where's my wallet?

Gotta admit, it's downright pretty for a plastic ruger.

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That is one thing, i think anyone has to admit that it looks nicer than the p97. The plastic grips on the P95 and 97 were just plain ugly.

It's MSRP is right in with the rest of the "P" series too. So, it should sell for a nice price. I think FAR less ugly than most rugers. And they claim that it is "slim" which is how i like my pistols. I may have to check one of these out.

Im not a fan of magazine disconnects though. But, hopefully it can be removed. Otherwise ill have to think about it. I dont care about internal locks in the least though since it doesnt do anything if you dont use it.

Sportsman's Warehouse, if you are fortunate enough to live near one, sells P97Ds for $319. That's a lot of gun for that money. If they price the new P345 the same way they price the P97, it could be the bargain gun of whichever year it is introduced. My local dealer called his distributor on Friday and chances of a May delivery sounded grim.

8+1 capacity? Sounds like a single stack. Hmmmm....very interesting.

It will certainly be single stack, since the current .45 ACP Rugers are single stack.

On seldom considered problem with a removing a magazine disconnect safety is that this can open up a can of worms if a justified shooting is followed by a civil suit. A bottom-feeding lawyer will try to use it to impress a less-then-knowledgeable jury or judge. While this may not be probable it is certainly possible. On several occasions I was hired by an attorney to disassemble a firearm and examine it to see if any mechanical alterations had been made. Obviously they were looking for something to use for a pry-bar. There are two simple solutions. If the feature doesn’t bother you buy the gun. If it does, (and I go with Preacherman’s views), then buy a different make or model – if necessary an older gun. If sales suffer the manufacturers may rethink their positions, but at the present time they see mechanical locks, loaded chamber indicators and magazine disconectors as the wave of the future. You can use your votes and pocketbooks to change their, and the politicians minds if you chose to.

I like it! One of the big reasons I don't currently have any polymer Ruger autos is the slick grip. Can't hold on to them when wet and I don't like the looks of the grip sleeves. I am a 9mm guy, though, so I hope they offer one in the P95 series. Sucks about the internal lock, though. One more thing to go wrong. I can take or leave the magazine safety (but I would have to get used to them again!).

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Being a Maryland resident I welcome the addition of the internal lock to Rugers line up.


Currently I only have 1 gun with an internal lock (Walther P22) and I have never used it!

If & when the new Rugers make it into this state I'll be buying the MKIII 22/45 and the 17Mach2 atleast.

8+1 capacity? Sounds like a single stack. Hmmmm....very interesting.

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Probably the same 8 round magazine as the current P90 and P97.

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/News-04-16-2004B.html .

So this is the long rumored new Ruger autoloader.

Magazine release looks better (and did someone say it's amtidextrous?) Size looks to be identical, weight is an ounce or so lighter.

Tigger guard is smaller (why?). Sights are a little different. Grip is checkered (yeah!). Got a rail, which I couldn't care less about.

Minor improvements, some questionable features. This is not any real great departure for Ruger, but does let Ruger sell in certain of our land's goofier states.

There's nothing here that's going to make me sell off my P90.

Very interesting. The P97 is the first of the P-series that feels good to me, and this looks like it might have gotten downright ergonomic.

Looks better, too.

What's up with that rear dovetail? It looks ENORMOUS!

I like it!

If the trigger is improved from the P-89/90, I might have to think about getting one. I was always VERY impressed with my P89's reliability

My first pistol was an HP22 made by Phoenix Arms. It had some sort of wierd safety thing with the mag. All I did was break out the grinder and fixed it in about 5 minutes. If the Ruger is as easy to disable I will do it in a heart beat. I am not worried about the cops trying to charge me for changing the magazine disconnect I can't see how that could possible effect if I shoot some dumb punk. Now if I got out the stone and converted my pistol to a 1 lb single action trigger I could see them possible charging me with something, but a mag disconect is worrying a little too much for me.

According to what I see in that picture this thing ejects brass to the left of the shooter. Most odd.

um WHAT? I dont think so....im gonna have to guess that the extractor etc is on the other side

"According to what I see in that picture this thing ejects brass to the left of the shooter. Most odd."

Are you referring to the fact that part of the ejection port extends down on the left side of the slide??? That same characteristic can be found on all of the Ruger P-Series, including my P89. And they all eject to the right (or back into your face on some unfortunate models )

Geeze, these have external extractors. It's been so long since I got rid of my P85 (not a typo) that I didn't remember that. I thought I remembered the rear of the barrel as square and that bevel looking feature was the slide. My goof.

The good news is this that tommorrow is my last night shift for 4 months. Hoping that clears up my senses more than a little.

Can't wait to hear how these do.

This looks interesting. But isn't the current P97 about 7 1/4" long? This one lists as being 7 1/2" in length. The picture makes the new P-345 look trimmer and possibly a bit smaller, which may not be the case. I guess we'll see when they finally become available.

Yup, saw/read about these last week sometime.. Been putting off owning a Ruger centerfire auto for quite a while now. This one is a bit more appealing to me. At first I said "NO", but upon reading and seeing that they'll be available WITHOUT that rails, I'm likely to purchase one. I'd be illing to bet that we'll see one in 9mm later. Maybe I'll wait for that one...