Another Ruger design flaw with the KP345

[MattTheHat]

Why can't you you raise a bit of the sight metal using a center punch, offset from the center the same amount as the set screw (though on the other side of the center line)?

That would make the sight cant the other direction when you initially install it, and then level out as you tighten the set screw. I don't own any Ruger pistols, so I may be missing something. You are correct, though. The sight appear to be canted almost exactly 1 degree, when measured.


-Matt

 

[DenaliPark]

But, doesn't that put you on EXACTLY the same level as Ruger? I mean, you've been ragging on them for selling a product they know is flawed. Just like knew you'd be doing when you went into the purchase.


-Matt

I only accepted the trade because it was well below retail, and yes, why shouldn't I sell it? Here I am offering some insight into the P345 and there are folks who still refuse to acknowledge it's very well documented failings, instead attacking me for delivering the message...I didn't produce this pistol, Ruger did!

 

[MattTheHat]

No, you didn't produce this pistol, but why does that matter? You've indicated you went into the deal knowing about this design flaw, yet still purchased the pistol to sell, so you could make some money.

Sounds to me like the difference is that you've admitted you knew about the problem. At this point Ruger could claim ignorance or just disagree with your opinion.

I'm not trying to attack you, it just seems weird that you're characterizing Ruger's actions as being so disreputable, but at the same time admit to doing the same exact thing.


-Matt

 

[JDGray]

My P345s rear sight was so tight fitting, I didn't think it would ever come off! After I removed the garbage from under it, the mags dropped free, as they should have from Ruger, and the FP block trash was no longer a worry. My particular specimin, did come with a bent camblock, but it sure didn't effect the accuracy. This is by far the softest shooting 45ACP, I have ever fired, and probably the most accurate. I agree, the model has been riddled with problems, but don't blame Ruger if an aftermarket sight don't fit tight.

The sight in your pic looks straight to me(Judging by the equal gap), the hammer, on the otherhand, is not.

 

[benzy2]

Well it's not, it's perfectly legal for me to turn right around and sell a NIB pistol that I got at less then half price for a profit...visit the legal forum once in a while...

At best you are in a cloudy area and at worst you are breaking the law. The wordings I have seen have been such that if you spend effort buying/trading/selling firearms with the goal of making a profit you are breaking the law. You can sell some of your personal collection (regardless of intent of making a profit) but you can't buy and sell firearms with the sole intent of profit. The fine line is the intent you had for the firearm. If it was a pistol for the collection it's not an issue. If it was bought strictly to flip with intent of a profit, you are acting as a dealer and need an FFL. You have made the intent fairly clear that the pistol was acquired strictly for profit.

 

[DenaliPark]

My P345s rear sight was so tight fitting, I didn't think it would ever come off! After I removed the garbage from under it, the mags dropped free, as they should have from Ruger, and the FP block trash was no longer a worry. My particular specimin, did come with a bent camblock, but it sure didn't effect the accuracy. This is by far the softest shooting 45ACP, I have ever fired, and probably the most accurate. I agree, the model has been riddled with problems, but don't blame Ruger if an aftermarket sight don't fit tight.

The sight in your pic looks straight to me(Judging by the equal gap), the hammer, on the otherhand, is not.

The sight was manufactured by Ruger, it is certainly better fitting after I modified it's seating, thus the nature of my OP.

 

[Mags]

So you are judging an entirely different pistol you have never handled, due to a different model of the same manufacturer made like 5 years ago? ROFL!

 

[DenaliPark]

No, you didn't produce this pistol, but why does that matter? You've indicated you went into the deal knowing about this design flaw, yet still purchased the pistol to sell, so you could make some money.

Sounds to me like the difference is that you've admitted you knew about the problem. At this point Ruger could claim ignorance or just disagree with your opinion.

I'm not trying to attack you, it just seems weird that you're characterizing Ruger's actions as being so disreputable, but at the same time admit to doing the same exact thing.


-Matt

You didn't read my OP, the sight was not known to me as flawed, just that I didn't like the tiny rear dots, it's why I originally purchased the Ruger/Tru Dot NS.

 

[DenaliPark]

So you are judging an entirely different pistol you have never handled, due to a different model of the same manufacturer made like 5 years ago? ROFL!

"Err" did you read the OP? Your post is nonsensical..

 

[Mags]

Sure is I thought I was in the other Ruger hate thread you were partaking in, my bad. In this thread your posts makes perfect sense.

 

[DenaliPark]

Wow, it's not my fault that Ruger produces a high incidence of defect, I'm just reporting on this particular example, and just look at the replies, seriously, some of you are just incapable of a reasonable exchange of info. You would think that they(Ruger)haven't had to offer two major recalls over the past 5-years, clearly those were just the result of cheerfully superior customer service, combined with inferior customers who just don't know how to appreciate a great product...

 

[Balrog]

I think you guys are being trolled.

Who but a troll would post a story about buying 3 guns they thought were innately flawed and then try to sell one for a profit to som unsuspecting person, and somehow think that they have not perpetuated the problem? No one with a conscience would sell a knowingly defective defense pistol to someone else unless they have a complete disregard for that person's safety.

 

[DenaliPark]

Sure is I thought I was in the other Ruger hate thread you were partaking in, my bad. In this thread your posts makes perfect sense.

Hate Ruger? See how it is, the truth hitting you squarely between the eyes and it's just Ruger hate? Amazing, you can lead the parched to water, but they hold out for kool-aid anyway...

 

[Mags]

Man I have no pony in the stable in this argument. I don't own a Ruger, I do own a Glock. I thought I was commenting in the SD40 thread and mistakenly added my 2 cents in this one. Can't you read where I say you are making perfect sense, or are you so blinded you can't even tell when someone agrees with you?

 

[DenaliPark]

Man I have no pony in the stable in this argument. I don't own a Ruger, I do own a Glock. I thought I was commenting in the SD40 thread and mistakenly added my 2 cents in this one. Can't you read where I say you are making perfect sense, or are you so blinded you can't even tell when someone agrees with you?

Read the mindless responses to my OP, then come back and tell me about mistaken! Now I'm a troll because I can afford to buy guns? I swear you can't make this crap up, some of these folks are in the double digits...

 

[Mags]

I actually appreciate this thread it has facts in it and is good information.

 

[Balrog]

Now I'm a troll because I can afford to buy guns?

Perhaps you are not a troll but buying a gun that you think is fundamentally flawed three times just sounds crazy to most people. Then you trash Ruger for making a flawed design, and try to sell it to some unwitting person.

If you really think it is flawed don't you feel kind of bad selling someone a gun that might not work and lead to them getting killed?

 

[Prion]

I'm not trying to attack you, it just seems weird that you're characterizing Ruger's actions as being so disreputable, but at the same time admit to doing the same exact thing.

Bingo!!!

Sorry Denali, you're being a hypocrite.

Not a Ruger fan for what it's worth but your plan and complaint is flawed.

 

[JDGray]

The sight was manufactured by Ruger, it is certainly better fitting after I modified it's seating, thus the nature of my OP.

I couldn't find the NS offered as an option, on new Rugers. Seen them in the store, along with Galco, and a lot of other stuff Ruger don't make. Did your factory equipped sight come off by hand? Just wondering

 

[Johnny Guest]

Enough

DenaliPark has made his point and there's little or nothing that the rest of us can do to help.

Hope things work out for you, DP.

CLOSED.

Johnny