Google going anti gun?

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RussellC

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May be old news but I just saw an article claiming that Google was going to dump anything
associated with guns or firearms. Google and their google fiber is in my neighborhood and I am signed up for it.
If true, I may very well reconsider.



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Sure hasn't happened yet!

Might be just another iinterweb rumor!

Time will tell I guess.

rc
 
I heard that rumor a few years ago. I still do google searches for guns and gun products. No problem. Searching a lot for 6.5 Grendel recently.
 
What do you mean, they're going to dump anything associated with firearms? The search engine won't include gun-related results?

If that's what you mean, I heard that several months ago, and assumed it was an untrue rumor. Given the time since then, I still hold that perspective. But we'll see what happens, and if/when this rumor proves true, I may change some services around. Let's face it though, if a guy is going to refuse to do business with everyone who holds political views differing from his own, he may as well quit his job and research companies and change services on a full-time basis.
 
Ugh, Charlie Horse, talk about some selective quoting on your part.

Let's cut straight to the article they are referring to:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...rm-Ammunition-Magazine-Ads-Starting-September

If you click on that link, it links to a proposed AdWords policy update that will go into effect in September: https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/6014299?hl=en

It looks like they are adding airsoft and scopes to the list of items excluded in AdWords.

Hardly a ban on all things gun-related.
 
Unless I'm badly mistaken they already censor their "shopping" results to list firearms results last.

For instance go to google shopping results for an ak47 magazine you'll find tons of air soft mags and other junk but few if any 7.62x39 mags.
 
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I use Yahoo as my prefered search engine and am perfectly happy with it. Google has always seemed too "faddish" for me, I prefer to not follow the crowd.
 
Curb gun violence by tweeking advertising or search at Google?

Check sources cited in the surveys of armed felon inmates in state/federal prisons published by National Institute of Justice: less than 15% from retail sources. Largest non-retail source approx. 21% from illegal drug dealers who sell/fence guns as a sideline. How many street criminals contact their illegal drug dealers through Google?

Another feel-good stance that affects nothing. Like most gun control.
 
Ever since Google stopped showing firearm results on their shopping section (which I hardly use) I won't support them. I use bing now which I was not happy about switching to but now I love it. The daily images they show are really neat, places around the world I never would have gotten to see otherwise.
 
I just read this AM that this only applies to certain text advertising, and is not a new policy. Apparently nothing has changed and you can do all the gun related searches that you ever have done without any problem. Just another internet rumor scare story.
 
Unless your business uses that advertising method. There is an effect then.
 
Google cooperates with the Chinese gov't to control what can be searched for. And Google has always had a policy to control content of searches. Think of them as a tour bus that only takes you to participating vendors that are lined up to sell you something. It's entirely commercial.

Google uses the number of hits on that page - which means you get the most popular wrong websites first at the top of the list. Happens all the time. They only search the 4% of the net that has open pages to access. The other 94% of the web requires knowing the direct web link. To go there, you have to get off the tour bus and wander the streets on your own.

If you are aware of Tor then you know getting off the bus has it's advantages and disadvantages. With new search engines coming online to find the 94% of webpages Google ignores, a substantial change to the internet will occur. Some of the early adventurers will be taken advantage of, but in the long run, things will become more civilized and sort out. Kind of like evil bay, plenty have been ripped off, but it does seem to happen less. At the cost of more and more restrictions and controls.

Sound like government? Yes. The problem is that if we want freedom, then we have to learn to tolerate those who might abuse it to some degree. If we will not tolerate it, then by restricting those who do we largely take our own rights away.

The 1934 NFA. The 1968 GCA. The AWB. etc.

Those who would give up freedom to gain security deserve neither. Being truly free means defending yourself directly, not depending on someone else to do it for you. If you like being mollycoddled by the Google nanny state, ok. No guns or knives allowed should be expected. It's exactly where we are at our daily jobs, right? No Guns At Work.

Quite the major difference from 200 years ago where any traveler or even those going about their daily life DID carry a firearms as they saw fit and there were no questions asked. Native Americans were less the threat than our own fellow citizens who would waylay us for the small number of coins in our purse.

The Internet is no different, and poised on the Great Expansion at this very moment. Be careful out there.
 
Ever since Google stopped showing firearm results on their shopping section (which I hardly use) I won't support them. I use bing now which I was not happy about switching to but now I love it. The daily images they show are really neat, places around the world I never would have gotten to see otherwise.


I've also started using Bing. So far I like it fine.
 
Google cooperates with the Chinese gov't to control what can be searched for. And Google has always had a policy to control content of searches. Think of them as a tour bus that only takes you to participating vendors that are lined up to sell you something. It's entirely commercial.

Google uses the number of hits on that page - which means you get the most popular wrong websites first at the top of the list. Happens all the time. They only search the 4% of the net that has open pages to access. The other 94% of the web requires knowing the direct web link. To go there, you have to get off the tour bus and wander the streets on your own.

If you are aware of Tor then you know getting off the bus has it's advantages and disadvantages. With new search engines coming online to find the 94% of webpages Google ignores, a substantial change to the internet will occur. Some of the early adventurers will be taken advantage of, but in the long run, things will become more civilized and sort out. Kind of like evil bay, plenty have been ripped off, but it does seem to happen less. At the cost of more and more restrictions and controls.

Sound like government? Yes. The problem is that if we want freedom, then we have to learn to tolerate those who might abuse it to some degree. If we will not tolerate it, then by restricting those who do we largely take our own rights away.

The 1934 NFA. The 1968 GCA. The AWB. etc.

Those who would give up freedom to gain security deserve neither. Being truly free means defending yourself directly, not depending on someone else to do it for you. If you like being mollycoddled by the Google nanny state, ok. No guns or knives allowed should be expected. It's exactly where we are at our daily jobs, right? No Guns At Work.

Quite the major difference from 200 years ago where any traveler or even those going about their daily life DID carry a firearms as they saw fit and there were no questions asked. Native Americans were less the threat than our own fellow citizens who would waylay us for the small number of coins in our purse.

The Internet is no different, and poised on the Great Expansion at this very moment. Be careful out there.

Where did I put my tinfoil hat?

Do you have any data to substantiate your claims?
 
Ever since Google stopped showing firearm results on their shopping section (which I hardly use) I won't support them. I use bing now which I was not happy about switching to but now I love it. The daily images they show are really neat, places around the world I never would have gotten to see otherwise.

You do realize that Bing has in place the same policies?

http://advertise.bingads.microsoft.com/en-us/editorial-disallowed-content-guidelines#Weapons

And if you use Yahoo - Yahoo's search is actually powered by Bing (has been for nearly 4 years now).
 
Google....

The search engine Google has been anti-2A/anti gun for several years.
I don't think they can or will cut all gun content(1A issues) but some shooting sports industry vendors advise not using Google. :uhoh:

The service is so common & part of so many devices/systems, I'll stay with it for now.
 
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