Issue with Beretta 84 .380

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Folks, i have a basically brand new Beretta 84 Cheetah in .380. This thing may have 100-200 rounds through it. It started stovepiping rounds, so i figured it was just the factory rounds so i started reloading different rounds for it. It doesn't matter about the length or min/max on the powder charge. Now, it doesn't stovepipe the round extracting, it stovepipes the round it's cycling in. I load 6 in the mag, and EVERY 6 load, it will stick at least 1. And it is a failure to feed.

I have no idea what it could be, i carried it to a ''gunsmith'' who checked it out and couldnt' find anything wrong, basically, he looked at it and saw it was new and said... all good.. :(

Any ideas.. Could it possibly be the magazine that is causing that? Or maybe the spring? It's a pretty cool pistol and when it shoots it does shoot great.

Thanks for any info.
 
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Stovepiping is a type of failure to eject. You're saying it also does this during feeding?

Does this happen to all your magazines? The pistol is stock otherwise?

Eliminate variables. Get some decent factory FMJ ammo (no Russian steel case) and see what happens. If it continues to FTEject, I'd start by replacing the extractor and its spring. Also check the chamber for pits or heavy machine marks that can impede case extraction and rob energy.

For the FTFeed, try different magazines and see if the problem follows the mag or not.

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Clean it well, lube it according to the manual and put factory ammo in a different mag. My 84F and BDA (clone) are extremely reliable. We would need more input to understand the problems.
 
Thanks for all the info guys. It really has had me scratching my head. I've shot Remington, Federal, S&B, Blazer and even my own loads (been loading for years), and it still has the feed problem.

Found and bought a new magazine at a LGS this weekend and it shot everything perfect. So, it was a mag problem. I threw the old one in the trash.

Thanks for all the info!
 
My brand new Taurus did the same. I polished the feeding ramp and now it runs like a dream. I could not believe the big change it made. I believe it has nothing to do with your extractor. Try it, you can't break it by giving it a polish.
 
Bummer, odds are you just needed to replace the spring.
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Or the feed lips. It can be hard to tell which is causing the problem w/o swapping guts around to see if the FTF follows the spring or the mag body.

Mags cause most the malfunctions I've ever seen* in self loading firearms.

BSW

*Except for AR15s, I'd say about 50-50 for bad mags and dry for those.
 
Or the feed lips. It can be hard to tell which is causing the problem w/o swapping guts around to see if the FTF follows the spring or the mag body.
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His "it doesn't stovepipe the round extracting, it stovepipes the round it's cycling in" would appear to describe a classic bolt over base feed failure which is almost always a bad magazine spring if it isn't FOD in the body causing the rounds to bind.

While bad feed lips can let the rounds pop out too early and cause similar "nose up jams" but in this case you usually also find live rounds on the ground and get fewer shots than you loaded.
 
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Try working the action over and over after lubing the heck out of the ramps. Also leave the chamber open when you can to put pressure on the spring. If the spring is too tight it will affect the ejection.

All else fails, take it back to you LGS to see if they can send it back for you. My LGS always does the dirty work and I keep going back for that reason.
 
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In the trash?,,, bummer.

In the trash?,,,
Bummer.

I had the exact same problem with a new Model 87,,,
One mag worked fine while the other didn't.

I called Beretta and they sent me a replacement,,,
But I had to return the old one first.

Aarond

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I had a similiar problem but with a different gun, Canik55 C100 in 380 Auto. I sent it back to TriStar (US marketer) who said it had a burr on the slide causing rough chambering and ejection. They cleaned the slide and replaced the slide stop. The gun has since fired thousands of rounds without a single failure.
 
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