Colt revolving rifle in movie

In a John Wayne movie, I think it was Rio Bravo with Robert Mitchum and James Caan the old timer used a colt revolving rifle to ring the church bell. I can't remember his name, but he said he was an old indian fighter....

IIRC, his name was Bull and the movie was El Dorado.

That scene in el dorado was the first time I ever saw a colt revolving rifle, and I lust after one so bad that it kills me. My other grail gun was a buntline because of the scene in "fist full of dollars" where Eastwood is showing off his marksmanship and gets one-upped quite badly by the gentleman in black. I will have to watch a bunch of old crappy westerns now. Thanks guys, it gives me something to do over the rainy (hopefully) weekend.

Nobody warned Bull about putting his hand in front of the cylinder.

Wasn't that lee Van Cleef, the man in black, in that movie? And there is no such thing as a crappy western. But Rio Bravo and El Dorado are so close in story that they are kind of confusing.

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Colt_Model_1855

Unfortunately IMFDB doesn't have any details on the movie.

Joe Bass, played by Burt Lancaster, used one in "The Scalphunters".

Unfortunately IMFDB doesn't have any details on the movie.

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No, but the IMDB does. There are plenty of details on the movie here:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061619/?ref_=nv_sr_1

although nothing on the 1855 Colt.

Guess that's why we have both data bases to peruse.

About 30 years ago, I hand the chance to handle an original colt revolving shotgun. Heavy as an anchor. Don't recall the ga. but it was a beast. Maybe 16 ga. I had no idea Colt made such a thing. The cylinder alone might have weighed three or four pounds.

They made them up to 10 gauge, at least that is how the one in a little private museum in St. Augustine was marked. It was a brute.

That Hungarian fellow that does all the You tube stuff has a comparison of an original and a modern repro Remington. He does excellent you tubes, far and away above the run of the mill stuff on there.

Couple of decades back I saw a non firing replica from Japan I believe, the folks that Replica Arms got their non firing zinc guns from made it I think.

They always remind me that despite what some of the experts say about Colt not making a non open top until 1873 they had them quite a bit earlier with the Root guns. That wonky way of locking the cylinder and rotating it compared to the 1848 through 73 guns is interesting.

I wonder if someone had let some small shields into the part of the barrel that holds the loading leaver that became a flat bit just long enough to stop gap cutting might not have made the 1855 a more attractive weapon? One that folks might have trusted to get a good hold on. Nothing as sever as the Rossi/or Taurus revolving shotgun/ rifle but some protection.

-kBob

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Mexican sharpshooter in 3:10 to Yuma used a revolving rifle

If you ever get to Claremore, Oklahoma,,,

If you ever get to Claremore, Oklahoma,,,
Visit the J. M. Davis Arms & Historical Museum.

It's touted as the largest private owned gun collection in the world.

They have 2-3 display cabinets,,,
Stuffed with Colt revolving rifles/shotguns.

I was there for about 6 hours,,,
I barely skimmed most of the cabinets.

It's worth a trip to tour the place.

Aarond

P.S. I own a reproduction of the 1858 Remington revolving carbine,,,
It's the only black powder fieryarm I've ever had that I still like to shoot.

.

Fingers McGee said:

No, but the IMDB does. There are plenty of details on the movie here:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061619/?ref_=nv_sr_1

although nothing on the 1855 Colt.

Guess that's why we have both data bases to peruse.

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Yes, but imdb would almost never have information regarding specific types of firearms, hence imfdb.

Isn't that a Remington that Bull is carrying? It has the solid top strap.

elhombreconnonombre said:

Bull's revolving rifle/carbine is based on the solid top frame Root designed side hammer Colt 1855 small caliber pocket revolvers.

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Thanks for the info. That cleared up a long held misconception...

One of the Bushwhackers Jake teams up with in the "Lonesome Dove" miniseries uses a revolving carbine.

4v50 Gary said:

I wasn't aware of that museum in Oklahoma. Thanks.

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It's an amazing place Gary. Between the Davis Gun museum, Woolaroc, the Will Rogers museum and the Gilcrease museum down in Tulsa a person can spend a good week in NE Oklahoma just looking at art, fine firearms and other cool stuff.