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Hey folks! Well I've been cruising the net lately looking for 12 gauge side by side shotguns on sale, and have been zeroing in on some Stevens 311's for sale. Today on Gun Broker though, I found an... interesting example:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=447729331

It appears to be a special KKK edition :)rolleyes:) Stevens 311, and it is a BUTE! :)neener:)

It's going for low, low price of $500 and has all the history explained in the description, just don't read if you are timid or weak minded. You might not be able to handle it. That's only a premium of between 100-200 bucks over other Stevens 311's on the site that are in significantly better shape. It does have some excellent stock inlays though, that must be the reason for this.

So what do you guys think of this thing, should I jump on it or hold out for a different Stevens 311??
 
Wow, creepy. Does it come with a white sheet and hood? Maybe, perhaps, one could sand off the carving, but it ain't worth 500 bucks. I've seen 311s in a lot better shape at gun shows for less. The "historical" aspect of it has no allure to ME, anyway, just a creepy factor far as I'm concerned.

Didn't notice where it was located. I think there might be a KKK museum in Vidor, Texas, maybe. :D

WARNING: THIS GUN IS NOT FOR THE TIMID OR WEAK MINDED
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I have to argue with the description, though, think this gun IS for the weak minded...:rolleyes:
 
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Disgusting in my opinion. None of my business what others own.
 
How would you know this guy didn't take some beat up rifle and carve this crap so he could make a sale? I wouldn't want to show that to anyone I know and get mistaked for someone who supports that organization.
 
The Dremel tool writing looks more recent then 1990!

Fake!!

And I agree.
Who in their right mind would want it anyway.

rc
 
That thing has been on GB for at least a year. I guess not many people are willing to pay a premium for a (quite probably fake) KKK provenance.
 
I think 150 would be generous. Doubt seriously that without provenance it is anything but a faked up Sears Stevens with a worthless stock. Maybe David Dukes can write a letter on it. Sorry to be so negative but after years in the business I've seen way too many "historically significant" guns.
 
I just don't understand how something like this could be seen as "historically signifigant" at all.

I'd much rather buy a Stevens 311R guard gun, at least those were used by the NYPD up until 2002 by a number of different units. That's what I was originally looking for on Gun Broker, but instead if found this!
 
I agree. I understand that people do terrible things and that some of the instruments they use may be historically valuable later.

But why would this be? It's just a shotgun that belonged to some racist guy. There are still a million racist people. Their stuff isn't worth anything just because they claim to be in the klan or whatever racist group they identify with. Good grief.

The only thing that would ever be more stupid than this guy is someone bidding on that POS shotgun.
 
Not something I would own. Given that, I bet it will sell. Lot's of collectors give good money for things with Swastikas on them or other links to groups good or bad.
 
That's not a collector's item. That's just a scratched-up gun. The "historic value" is nil. No one who does, or understands, historic significance, preservation, or appraisal would give that a second glance.

If there actually was engraving, it might interest someone who collects memorabilia of that sort. If there was some provenance (direct tie to some historic person or event) that would be quite different. As it is, just another marred up gun.

Might be worth a couple hundred as a project gun, to make that SBS or "coach" gun.
 
Lot's of collectors give good money for things with Swastikas on them or other links to groups good or bad.
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True. You see Nazi memorabilia at gun shows but this isn't that. It's just a beat up shotgun that some guy carved into the wood.

You can carve anything into anything. It doesn't make it authentic collector material.

I wouldn't give over $100 for it and that would be for something like Sam mentioned to turn it into a coach gun or something like that. Those marks wouldn't be there long. I'd sand them out if possible and toss the stock and start over if not.
 
Not something I would own. Given that, I bet it will sell. Lot's of collectors give good money for things with Swastikas on them or other links to groups good or bad.
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My late uncle had a P08 Luger in a Nazi issue shoulder holster with spare mag compartment and a swastika/eagle emblazoned on the flap. He brought it back from the war as a war trophy. THAT is a historical gun. This probably fake POS Stevens shotgun that might not even be safe to fire just looking at it, is NOT historical. It's just 500 bucks for junk I wouldn't use for a boat anchor.
 
Fake pandering crap!

I'd give maybe 65-80 bucks for the action and burn the ruined wood this year in the fire place.

What a tool!
 
That's some stupid stuff.
A 311 in a common gauge is worth $200 tops.
A 311 with a ruined stock? Worthless. NOT a Beauty. Trash for sure.
The cost to replace the "customized" stock is more than the gun is worth.

I laugh in your general direction!
 
thats allot of money for a gun that i would have the spend 150 bucks on for a new stock. the plus side is i get more firewood....
 
I suppose one man's treasure is another man's junk, but I'd not give more than $50 for that shotgun. Like someone else said, burn the wood when you get it. Boyd's makes a nice replacement walnut stock for the 311.

The receiver is rusty, and you can't tell what the bores look like, or the firing mechanism. A clean, cared for and properly functioning 311 12 ga. is worth $200-$250 at best, they sold for about that back in the '80s before it was discontinued. 20 ga. is about the same value, 16 ga. go for a bit more and .410's are the most expensive, due to rarity.

IMO, nothing having to do with the KKK has any value.
 
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